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If you'd walk into a lead dev position after only fiddling with JS for 2 weeks by watching YouTube videos, you'd be kicked out faster than any sales person ever

If you'd walk into a lead dev position after only fiddling with JS for 2 weeks by watching YouTube videos, you'd be kicked out faster than any sales person ever would. The reason you felt no threat was because you knew what you were doing,or at least knew good part of it. Sales people have one purpose in companies: to sell. There's nothing else. So if,after 2,3,6 months they can't do it, then of course nobody will keep them. Only shit companies hire/fire sales people like there's unlimited supply of them waiting to join,but even the good ones won't keep them forever if they can't do the job.

watwut 6y ago
There is massive difference between "the reality is for most sales jobs" and "if you get hired to position widely out of your ability". What you describe is quite unusual exceptional situation. Not nearly reality of most programming jobs.
- cosmodisk 6y ago
  The problem is that a lot of people hired into sales positions shouldn't be allowed anywhere near it.. What I've seen: blatant lies in regulated industry with mandatory call recordings, refusal to do even the basic admin( I'm here to sell, not to fill in the info in the CRM system), fraud ( can't comment,as it's quite specific), lazyness ( watching YouTube/Facebook/Shopping while pretending your phone isn't working). The list goes on. Those people get fired. Normal people, who work, understand what they do and are willing to be trained or corrected if they do things incorrectly, are rarely,if ever, 2 paychecks away from being fired.
  - watwut 6y ago
    No, sales people who lie dont get fired. Sales people who dont hit targets get fired - and those are biased towars salesman who dont lie. Those who lie sell better hit targets. Sales who do basic admin instead of selling dont get fired, they are the ones more likely to hit sales targets. The ones who do basic admin waste effort that could be used for selling and get no rewards for it anyway. > lazyness ( watching YouTube/Facebook/Shopping Completely normal among programmers.

watwut 6y ago

There is massive difference between "the reality is for most sales jobs" and "if you get hired to position widely out of your ability". What you describe is quite unusual exceptional situation. Not nearly reality of most programming jobs.

cosmodisk 6y ago
The problem is that a lot of people hired into sales positions shouldn't be allowed anywhere near it.. What I've seen: blatant lies in regulated industry with mandatory call recordings, refusal to do even the basic admin( I'm here to sell, not to fill in the info in the CRM system), fraud ( can't comment,as it's quite specific), lazyness ( watching YouTube/Facebook/Shopping while pretending your phone isn't working). The list goes on. Those people get fired. Normal people, who work, understand what they do and are willing to be trained or corrected if they do things incorrectly, are rarely,if ever, 2 paychecks away from being fired.
- watwut 6y ago
  No, sales people who lie dont get fired. Sales people who dont hit targets get fired - and those are biased towars salesman who dont lie. Those who lie sell better hit targets. Sales who do basic admin instead of selling dont get fired, they are the ones more likely to hit sales targets. The ones who do basic admin waste effort that could be used for selling and get no rewards for it anyway. > lazyness ( watching YouTube/Facebook/Shopping Completely normal among programmers.