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> I got one teacher to chat off the record and he basically said to "get through it." What a disservice to students. Why are there still weeding-out classes? Ho
by Melting_Harps 6y ago
> I got one teacher to chat off the record and he basically said to "get through it." What a disservice to students. Why are there still weeding-out classes? How many doctors, surgeons, programmers, engineers would there be in the world if it wasn't for these classes? The Montessori education system and the like seem so superior. College should be pass/fail.
Honestly, that's typical of most Biology lower division courses. The theory goes 'if you cannot pass this, you have no chance of the MCAT.' which may be true but some of us had no desire to be a physician. Someone replied to such an absurd structure explained to me that's 'how the system works.' Many of us that finally passed would not have anything directly to do with medicine and would AT BEST be considered ancillary service status to Medicine, and we were not amused. I personally will only take Industry-centric certifications, and I will never consider going back for anything degree related.
Google really is making the smartest move out of all the FAANG corps in that regard, by placing grater value on their own rather than degrees.
With that said, that's really what its there to do, isolate those who can commit to high loads of dated and rather antiqued (my near College credit HS Biology graded us on Kingdoms as Domains were already well established in the University lectures I attended) rote learning the best and 'thining the heard' for the upper-divisions which were super-capped when I was in University as all fields in Biology were impacted.
I at least thought now with Online learning being the default for so many it's sad to see the tech still hasn't solved this problem of mainly distribution/class seats.
I think it's one of the 2 elite schools in the UK (Cambridge or Oxford) that have an actual in-person skill assessment for your final rather than a test and most of your grade depends on that. My Inorganic Chemistry professor said his final exams were always the most preferable, albeit impractical, way to go about it. As a regular at his office hour lectures, I wish I had the pleasure of seeing what that may have been like.
> My SO once TA'd for a pre-med class. Holy hell, the students were something else as compared to other disciplines.
Been there, seen that as a Biology major just trying to get my foot in the door to get a graded paper during office hours. It's really sad now that I think about it as an adult that left the Industry long ago, you have no idea the weight on those kids shoulders to make it pass the openly touted 'filter' process, be it self-imposed or from their family. Its a sad reality how few end up using it all in these 2 horrible job markets for young inexperienced graduates.
My heart goes out to anyone who has to graduate in this Market, 2008 was bad but I think this may end up being worse as automation wasn't as big of threat as it was in 2008 as it is now in 2020 with COVID.
PS: Also, its well known amongst Biology majors that adderall abuse doesn't just start in Medschool, its a well established habit by undergrad possibly even the HS level for some.
- ck425 6y ago> Google really is making the smartest move out of all the FAANG corps in that regard, by placing grater value on their own rather than degrees. Sorry could you explain that? Do Google now run courses and place value on having completed them in interviews?
- searchableguy 6y ago> Sorry could you explain that? Do Google now run courses and place value on having completed them in interviews? Yes. They are slowly offering those options along with other tech companies. I think Shopify has the best model: https://devdegree.ca/ https://devdegree.ca/
- 908B64B197 6y agoIs it a real degree or some type of bootcamp?
- Melting_Harps 6y agoA professional certification, much like the A+ certification that gives you a piece of paper to qualify you for entry work into IT. They're exclusively on Coursera for now, so it's more like Online learning at a University--I took a few classes online for my undergrad and it was kind of the same: online lectures, Q/A, forum participation points with periodic exams and a final. I'm told those bootcamps varies between pretty generic and cookie-cutter to a pretty intense mentorship-driven place, so I can't really say one or the other as all my tech stuff is self-taught and then supplemented with online courses and on the job projects, but my sector of fintech is incredibly niche so there isn't really any other option. Give it a shot, you can survey most courses on Coursera (where Google is offering said certification) for free and pay if you want to stay and earn a certificate. Udemy is another one I used when I wanted to hone my python skills when I was going from my developer role at IBM.