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I'm confused, because that seems backwards to me? How can He exist within time and space if He created the universe (including time and space)?
by drdeca 6y ago
I'm confused, because that seems backwards to me? How can He exist within time and space if He created the universe (including time and space)?
- sudosysgen 6y agoThe conclusion we came to is that such a being would have to have it's own, metaphysically superior, time and space, and our time would be a subtime of it as well as our space would be a subspace of it. The concept of a being subject to causality presupposes something akin to time.
- complexmango 6y agoNo. The concept is that there is an infinite, indescribable void from which emerges consciousness manifested in matter. And conscious matter creates universes constantly, that appear out of the void, hence creating time and space. This would also imply that its possible not only to change the future, but also the past. The masters advise, however, that these are distractions and that the journey inevitably leads to experiencing the void itself, hence stepping out of time and space, and consciously experiencing any aspect of time and space and consciousness one wishes to, while always remembering that one is beyond it.
- sudosysgen 6y agoI was referring specifically to Abrahamic religion, though of course what you say can be right in other spiritualities.
- drdeca 6y agoAh, ok. My thought is to distinguish between “logically prior” or “causally prior” or something like that, and “prior in time”, But, I suppose one might consider those things to be a kind of “time” in some sense.