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Well not sure how to feel sorry for you: you rely on Chinese manufacturing and this is not something thats novel in the first place. Amazon is not a copyright o

Well not sure how to feel sorry for you: you rely on Chinese manufacturing and this is not something thats novel in the first place. Amazon is not a copyright or a trademark enforcer, so this speaks to your inability to sue one Chinese manufacturer (the copier) over another (your preferred manufacturer). It seems like as a society we have given up on any manufacturing or making physical things outside of a few communist controlled territories. Seems very much like working as intended.... Play with fire, catch fire that's what you get.

hedora 6y ago
Nonsense. Amazon is clearly selling counterfeit goods. If found guilty, they’d be facing a $15 million fine. https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/selling-fakes-online.html https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/selling-fakes-...
- travelhead 6y ago
  Agreed! I would love to take this to court against Amazon if any HN lawyer’s that would like to help!
- kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago
  IANAL so please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't counterfeiting imply that the scamming party is claiming to sell something else while actually selling fake goods? Such as passing off their random shirt as a Gucci shirt? Or mixing chemicals themselves and calling it a Versace perfume. In this case the other listing isn't claiming to sell BeltBro, they are claiming to sell AAROMANO. The fact that they stole the copy etc is wrong but it sounds like a different problem. But there doesn't seem to be any misrepresentation or counterfeiting.
  - travelhead 6y ago
    It’s counterfeit because they are using my logo and images on their product with the intent of deceiving my customers into purchasing their product.
    - stale2002 6y ago
      Then go through the proper process, which is to file a DMCA takedown request...
      - lovetocode 6y ago
        Sure, but then a copy cat scammer will pop up in its place. This will be a time and money sink for OP unless he has the coin to keep a lawyer on retainer until the end of time.
        stale2002 6y ago
        You don't need a lawyer to file a DMCA. It's pretty easy.
johnwheeler 6y ago
This is one of your previous comments “This is genuinely scary. Photos, Yale locks, Fi, WiFi and Nest thermostat can all be poof gone because I made a silly YouTube comment? How is this not regulated?” But, I’m not sure how to feel sorry for you should that happen. You played by the rules and got screwed over because big co doesn’t care about you. See, we all have concerns like this about fairness, but what separates you from the op is they actually built something and brought it into the world.
- ksk 6y ago
  Isn't it ironic that you're doing the same thing hes afraid Google might - Using someones opinions on social media for punitive purposes. For double irony, it also mirrors China's social credit system in-part.
ksk 6y ago
You're about 30 years too late. Manufacturing is not coming back to the US. We've been migrating towards a service economy for several decades now. The rise of automation has only accelerated this trend. What kind of manufacturing jobs would you like to see come back? The notion of property and property rights is obviously very very different under communism, but even so, their domestic economic policies have been beneficial to the average Chinese citizen. China has successfully brought tens of millions of their own citizens out of poverty - without being involved in stupid wars to 'stimulate the economy'. IP theft aside, that deserves to be commended.

hedora 6y ago

Nonsense. Amazon is clearly selling counterfeit goods. If found guilty, they’d be facing a $15 million fine. https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/selling-fakes-online.html https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/selling-fakes-...

travelhead 6y ago
Agreed! I would love to take this to court against Amazon if any HN lawyer’s that would like to help!
kinkrtyavimoodh 6y ago
IANAL so please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't counterfeiting imply that the scamming party is claiming to sell something else while actually selling fake goods? Such as passing off their random shirt as a Gucci shirt? Or mixing chemicals themselves and calling it a Versace perfume. In this case the other listing isn't claiming to sell BeltBro, they are claiming to sell AAROMANO. The fact that they stole the copy etc is wrong but it sounds like a different problem. But there doesn't seem to be any misrepresentation or counterfeiting.
- travelhead 6y ago
  It’s counterfeit because they are using my logo and images on their product with the intent of deceiving my customers into purchasing their product.
  - stale2002 6y ago
    Then go through the proper process, which is to file a DMCA takedown request...
    - lovetocode 6y ago
      Sure, but then a copy cat scammer will pop up in its place. This will be a time and money sink for OP unless he has the coin to keep a lawyer on retainer until the end of time.
      - stale2002 6y ago
        You don't need a lawyer to file a DMCA. It's pretty easy.

johnwheeler 6y ago

This is one of your previous comments “This is genuinely scary. Photos, Yale locks, Fi, WiFi and Nest thermostat can all be poof gone because I made a silly YouTube comment? How is this not regulated?” But, I’m not sure how to feel sorry for you should that happen. You played by the rules and got screwed over because big co doesn’t care about you. See, we all have concerns like this about fairness, but what separates you from the op is they actually built something and brought it into the world.

ksk 6y ago
Isn't it ironic that you're doing the same thing hes afraid Google might - Using someones opinions on social media for punitive purposes. For double irony, it also mirrors China's social credit system in-part.

ksk 6y ago

You're about 30 years too late. Manufacturing is not coming back to the US. We've been migrating towards a service economy for several decades now. The rise of automation has only accelerated this trend. What kind of manufacturing jobs would you like to see come back? The notion of property and property rights is obviously very very different under communism, but even so, their domestic economic policies have been beneficial to the average Chinese citizen. China has successfully brought tens of millions of their own citizens out of poverty - without being involved in stupid wars to 'stimulate the economy'. IP theft aside, that deserves to be commended.