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> When Chirag Bhakta saw a headline recently that said tech workers were fleeing San Francisco, he had a quick reaction: “Good riddance.” > “They used their ca

> When Chirag Bhakta saw a headline recently that said tech workers were fleeing San Francisco, he had a quick reaction: “Good riddance.” > “They used their capital to radically shift the makeup of poor, working-class communities,” Tech people are not working class?

kenhwang 6y ago
Generally considered to be professional class. Working class generally refers to jobs that require little experience/education to enter since skills can be learned on the job. Professional class generally requires higher education.
- pb7 6y ago
  Weird mix of sugarcoating and needlessly dividing people. Not you, but the terms.
  - dralley 6y ago
    Not at all. It's the difference between an AWS employee and an Amazon fulfillment employee. If you actually think that the two positions are at all comparable, I suggest you do a stint working in a warehouse for some perspective.
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eli_gottlieb 6y ago
If you get paid in stock options or RSU's, by definition, you are not working-class. You are receiving an ownership stake in the enterprise.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> Tech people are not working class? In traditional class terminology, rooted largely in the Marxist analysis of relations in capitalism, “Tech people” are mostly part of the distinct knowledge-worker subgroup of the working class (“proletarian intelligentsia”) though, because of the high pay and other aspects of the field, many have escaped to the middle class (as part of the “petit bourgeois intelligentsia”), and a very few (typically tech founders turned unicorn CxO) have entered into the upper class (“haut bourgeoisie”). Modern American terminology has little consistent theoretical or empirical grounding, but typically reserves “working class” for the below-median-income segment of classic working class, calls most of the rest of the classic working class “middle class”, and calls approximately the classic middle class “upper middle class” or part of the “upper class”.

kenhwang 6y ago

Generally considered to be professional class. Working class generally refers to jobs that require little experience/education to enter since skills can be learned on the job. Professional class generally requires higher education.

pb7 6y ago
Weird mix of sugarcoating and needlessly dividing people. Not you, but the terms.
- dralley 6y ago
  Not at all. It's the difference between an AWS employee and an Amazon fulfillment employee. If you actually think that the two positions are at all comparable, I suggest you do a stint working in a warehouse for some perspective.
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eli_gottlieb 6y ago

If you get paid in stock options or RSU's, by definition, you are not working-class. You are receiving an ownership stake in the enterprise.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> Tech people are not working class? In traditional class terminology, rooted largely in the Marxist analysis of relations in capitalism, “Tech people” are mostly part of the distinct knowledge-worker subgroup of the working class (“proletarian intelligentsia”) though, because of the high pay and other aspects of the field, many have escaped to the middle class (as part of the “petit bourgeois intelligentsia”), and a very few (typically tech founders turned unicorn CxO) have entered into the upper class (“haut bourgeoisie”). Modern American terminology has little consistent theoretical or empirical grounding, but typically reserves “working class” for the below-median-income segment of classic working class, calls most of the rest of the classic working class “middle class”, and calls approximately the classic middle class “upper middle class” or part of the “upper class”.