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So my 2012 MBP is on its last legs (love that thing). So now we have the M1, and I'm hearing impressive things. But my question is, as a developer who does, let

So my 2012 MBP is on its last legs (love that thing). So now we have the M1, and I'm hearing impressive things. But my question is, as a developer who does, lets face it, pretty much the gamut, will I be handicapped in the near term? I use a combination of IntelliJ IDEs and Emacs, with MacPorts, and a large variety of open source and closed source tools. I just don't want the headache of having some part of my workflow cutoff.

golemiprague 6y ago
Exactly in the same spot but I also need windows virtualisation...
jonplackett 6y ago
In almost the same position (MacBook Pro 2013) and I plan on waiting for the 16". By the time that's out we'll see how many of these things are getting quickly ported - my expectation looking at how excited every is, is that things will get ported FAST. But there's time to wait and see before the one I actually want comes out.
PeterisP 6y ago
Well, at least Homebrew are claiming that "There won’t be any support for native ARM Homebrew installations for months to come." (https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857 https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857) so if you rely on a large variety of open source and closed source tools that might be a problem.
- vimy 6y ago
  Almost everything works if you start terminal in rosetta mode. cmd+i on terminal.app and check the rosetta box.
TuringNYC 6y ago
Same question here, except I disagree with all the discussion on other threads about "wow, 16gb RAM is magically sufficient for most use cases." I'm sure it is now sufficient for web browsing + IDE + Slack, but what about anything beyond that? I realize 16gb RAM goes farther on M1 vs before, but some things just need RAM and there is no way around it. If i'm running a VM or multiple VMs (e.g., for android app development), or multiple docker containers -- I just need more RAM. I'm hoping that the upcoming 16" MBP upgrade offers more RAM tiers.
saagarjha 6y ago
MacPort isn't doing all that badly right now.
- jonnycomputer 6y ago
  is this based on your own experience?
  - thoughtsimple 6y ago
    Not who you responded to but in my personal experience it is about 80% of what I've tried to build. I mostly had trouble with VideoLan x264 (but oddly not x265).
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Yes.
greyhair 6y ago
Just had this discussion at work. We have a mix of MacBook Pros and high end Windows 10 laptops, and every one of them is running a VM hosting Ubuntu 18.04 Is the M1 going to have a VM capable of running a native Ubuntu instance?
thoughtsimple 6y ago
MacPorts is working pretty well. About 80% in my testing. I've been able to work around anything that doesn't build. It seems much further along than HomeBrew.
- jonnycomputer 6y ago
  Good to hear (for us MacPorts users!)
jonnycomputer 6y ago
Based on what people are saying here, it does seem that by the time the 16" comes out, support should be pretty good. That's pretty impressive, in a way.

golemiprague 6y ago

Exactly in the same spot but I also need windows virtualisation...

jonplackett 6y ago

In almost the same position (MacBook Pro 2013) and I plan on waiting for the 16". By the time that's out we'll see how many of these things are getting quickly ported - my expectation looking at how excited every is, is that things will get ported FAST. But there's time to wait and see before the one I actually want comes out.

PeterisP 6y ago

Well, at least Homebrew are claiming that "There won’t be any support for native ARM Homebrew installations for months to come." (https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857 https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857) so if you rely on a large variety of open source and closed source tools that might be a problem.

vimy 6y ago
Almost everything works if you start terminal in rosetta mode. cmd+i on terminal.app and check the rosetta box.

TuringNYC 6y ago

Same question here, except I disagree with all the discussion on other threads about "wow, 16gb RAM is magically sufficient for most use cases." I'm sure it is now sufficient for web browsing + IDE + Slack, but what about anything beyond that? I realize 16gb RAM goes farther on M1 vs before, but some things just need RAM and there is no way around it. If i'm running a VM or multiple VMs (e.g., for android app development), or multiple docker containers -- I just need more RAM. I'm hoping that the upcoming 16" MBP upgrade offers more RAM tiers.

saagarjha 6y ago

MacPort isn't doing all that badly right now.

jonnycomputer 6y ago
is this based on your own experience?
- thoughtsimple 6y ago
  Not who you responded to but in my personal experience it is about 80% of what I've tried to build. I mostly had trouble with VideoLan x264 (but oddly not x265).
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Yes.

greyhair 6y ago

Just had this discussion at work. We have a mix of MacBook Pros and high end Windows 10 laptops, and every one of them is running a VM hosting Ubuntu 18.04 Is the M1 going to have a VM capable of running a native Ubuntu instance?

thoughtsimple 6y ago

MacPorts is working pretty well. About 80% in my testing. I've been able to work around anything that doesn't build. It seems much further along than HomeBrew.

jonnycomputer 6y ago
Good to hear (for us MacPorts users!)

jonnycomputer 6y ago

Based on what people are saying here, it does seem that by the time the 16" comes out, support should be pretty good. That's pretty impressive, in a way.