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You seem to have missed that the point was that they denied benefits to US citizens, merely because someone else in the household did not have a SSN. But regar

by lutorm 6y ago

You seem to have missed that the point was that they denied benefits to US citizens, merely because someone else in the household did not have a SSN. But regarding actual illegal immigrants, it's amazing how many people complain about "giving" benefits to immigrants while apparently being completely unaware (or conveniently forgetting) that a significant fraction (perhaps even a majority) of those immigrants actually pay taxes.

rayiner 6y ago
> You seem to have missed that the point was that they denied benefits to US citizens, merely because someone else in the household did not have a SSN. The tax code--not just for this purpose, but pretty much all purposes--treats households filing a joint return as a single economic unit. > But regarding actual illegal immigrants, it's amazing how many people complain about "giving" benefits to immigrants while apparently being completely unaware (or conveniently forgetting) that a significant fraction (perhaps even a majority) of those immigrants actually pay taxes. Those taxes don't come close to paying for the benefits they use--such as cross-subsidized emergency healthcare, schooling, etc.
newfriend 6y ago
Yes, I will complain about illegal aliens getting benefits. Those benefits are not meant for them. They are taking resources from law-abiding citizens & residents. The cost of illegal aliens far outweighs any amount they pay in taxes [1]. > At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens. > Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury. A significant fraction of those illegal aliens actually commit fraud by using someone else's SSN. And a large amount of others pay zero tax, because they are paid under the table. Spare me your criminal-coddling, all illegal aliens should be deported immediately. [1] https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/USCostStudy_2010.pdf https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/USCostStu...

by lutorm 6y ago

rayiner 6y ago

> You seem to have missed that the point was that they denied benefits to US citizens, merely because someone else in the household did not have a SSN. The tax code--not just for this purpose, but pretty much all purposes--treats households filing a joint return as a single economic unit. > But regarding actual illegal immigrants, it's amazing how many people complain about "giving" benefits to immigrants while apparently being completely unaware (or conveniently forgetting) that a significant fraction (perhaps even a majority) of those immigrants actually pay taxes. Those taxes don't come close to paying for the benefits they use--such as cross-subsidized emergency healthcare, schooling, etc.

newfriend 6y ago

Yes, I will complain about illegal aliens getting benefits. Those benefits are not meant for them. They are taking resources from law-abiding citizens & residents. The cost of illegal aliens far outweighs any amount they pay in taxes [1]. > At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens. > Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury. A significant fraction of those illegal aliens actually commit fraud by using someone else's SSN. And a large amount of others pay zero tax, because they are paid under the table. Spare me your criminal-coddling, all illegal aliens should be deported immediately. [1] https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/USCostStudy_2010.pdf https://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-08/USCostStu...