> The only reason anything has value is if people value it...value itself is a social phenomena That's not totally true, certain things have a more fundamental

> The only reason anything has value is if people value it...value itself is a social phenomena That's not totally true, certain things have a more fundamental value in that if you don't get them you die, such as food and shelter. If we were ethereal economic agents living on a free and infinite compute substrate you could say that, in the meantime the Maslow hierarchy makes certains things have intrasical value that other things don't have.