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> Hopefully at some point we will understand that the virus will follow its own curve regardless of what we try to do, after it has implanted in a country. Thi

> Hopefully at some point we will understand that the virus will follow its own curve regardless of what we try to do, after it has implanted in a country. This comment is utterly infuriating. Who is we? Is it epidemiologists? Because I think they would disagree with you. Is it South Korea or New Zealand? They would disagree too. COVID 19's spread and contagion isn't magic. It's basic germ theory, which we've known for over 100 years. The fact that this defeatist, anti-science sentiment can sit as the most upvoted comment on a site called Hacker News is... a sign of the times.

figaroniguzo 6y ago
New Zealand (incredibly remote island with 4.8M, less than a few boroughs in London) shut down its borders before coronavirus season (which meant very limited community transmission outside of a few clusters) and did a hard lockdown. Once community spread has taken place (during coronavirus season), it's too late to act. But if you have any argument other than ad-hominem attacks, please feel free to share and participate in the debate. Your only argument is outrage? It's shocking that debate is now limited to insulting others of being anti scientific if they don't agree with one's point of view, backed with citations.
- raverbashing 6y ago
  > shut down its borders before coronavirus season ( LOL, but you were trying to convince people isolation doesn't work and that the virus will just magically continue doing the rounds without any way of stopping it Conspirationists don't have to make any sense, right?
- jamienicol 6y ago
  There is nothing ad-hominem about their comment. The most populated london borough has a population of around 400,000. Quite clearly New Zealand's population is greater than any london borough, or even a few combined.
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irq11 6y ago
> Who is we? Is it epidemiologists? Because I think they would disagree with you. So basically, people who agree with you are “epidemiologists”, and people who show you facts you don’t like are “anti-science”. What’s infuriating is when someone can post a well-sourced, factual comment, and it gets rejected by people who dismiss any and all facts that don’t fit their pre-determined narrative.

figaroniguzo 6y ago

New Zealand (incredibly remote island with 4.8M, less than a few boroughs in London) shut down its borders before coronavirus season (which meant very limited community transmission outside of a few clusters) and did a hard lockdown. Once community spread has taken place (during coronavirus season), it's too late to act. But if you have any argument other than ad-hominem attacks, please feel free to share and participate in the debate. Your only argument is outrage? It's shocking that debate is now limited to insulting others of being anti scientific if they don't agree with one's point of view, backed with citations.

raverbashing 6y ago
> shut down its borders before coronavirus season ( LOL, but you were trying to convince people isolation doesn't work and that the virus will just magically continue doing the rounds without any way of stopping it Conspirationists don't have to make any sense, right?
jamienicol 6y ago
There is nothing ad-hominem about their comment. The most populated london borough has a population of around 400,000. Quite clearly New Zealand's population is greater than any london borough, or even a few combined.

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irq11 6y ago

> Who is we? Is it epidemiologists? Because I think they would disagree with you. So basically, people who agree with you are “epidemiologists”, and people who show you facts you don’t like are “anti-science”. What’s infuriating is when someone can post a well-sourced, factual comment, and it gets rejected by people who dismiss any and all facts that don’t fit their pre-determined narrative.