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Australia on average is very sparsely populated. However, it's also one of the most urbanized countries in the world, and places like central Sydney are hardly

Australia on average is very sparsely populated. However, it's also one of the most urbanized countries in the world, and places like central Sydney are hardly "very sparsely populated".

Guthur 6y ago
The CBD of Syndey is still nowhere near what it was pre covid. Most of the large tech companies are still work from home. I commute to the CBD every day and it's nowhere near like it was, I can get a seat on the train, even with distancing. I couldn't even get a seat during rush hour before covid.
arethuza 6y ago
There are some fairly empty bits of the UK (e.g. there is greater area of peat bogs (9%) than is built up (6%)) - which means the bits of the UK where people live are even more densely populated than you might expect: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.744440 https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...
alkonaut 6y ago
Density is complicated. On one hand, raw population per square kilometer is obviously a useless metric for epidemics. It's trivial to understand that taking a small country with a few cities, and adding a vast uninhabited area will drive people/sq.km towards zero without actually changing the actual density where people live (See Canada, Sweden, Australia and many others). So it's not people per area. Perhaps a better measure is "mean distance" between people? That means Australia is pretty dense because most people live in dense areas. Urbanization is obviously a much better metric than raw density. But this also misses another important factor: Australi, and Sweden (which are sparse but urbanized so low pop/sq.qm but low mean distance), unlike the UK is pretty "disconnected". There are clusters with high density, but they are separated by areas of low density. It's likely better in an epidemic to have 3 cities with 1 million separated from each other, than 30 cities with 100k people each, where people in each cities visit/commute to the next 5 cities. That's what some places like UK/Netherlands/Belgium have. They are extremely dense in the sense that it's always close to the next population center. There are no natural borders or empty spaces. People from city A work in town B, and some fraction of people in town B work in city C and so on. Towns A and Z are connected by just a few days worth of normal commute for thousands of people.

Australia on average is very sparsely populated. However, it's also one of the most urbanized countries in the world, and places like central Sydney are hardly "very sparsely populated".

Guthur 6y ago

The CBD of Syndey is still nowhere near what it was pre covid. Most of the large tech companies are still work from home. I commute to the CBD every day and it's nowhere near like it was, I can get a seat on the train, even with distancing. I couldn't even get a seat during rush hour before covid.

arethuza 6y ago

There are some fairly empty bits of the UK (e.g. there is greater area of peat bogs (9%) than is built up (6%)) - which means the bits of the UK where people live are even more densely populated than you might expect: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.744440 https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...

alkonaut 6y ago

Density is complicated. On one hand, raw population per square kilometer is obviously a useless metric for epidemics. It's trivial to understand that taking a small country with a few cities, and adding a vast uninhabited area will drive people/sq.km towards zero without actually changing the actual density where people live (See Canada, Sweden, Australia and many others). So it's not people per area. Perhaps a better measure is "mean distance" between people? That means Australia is pretty dense because most people live in dense areas. Urbanization is obviously a much better metric than raw density. But this also misses another important factor: Australi, and Sweden (which are sparse but urbanized so low pop/sq.qm but low mean distance), unlike the UK is pretty "disconnected". There are clusters with high density, but they are separated by areas of low density. It's likely better in an epidemic to have 3 cities with 1 million separated from each other, than 30 cities with 100k people each, where people in each cities visit/commute to the next 5 cities. That's what some places like UK/Netherlands/Belgium have. They are extremely dense in the sense that it's always close to the next population center. There are no natural borders or empty spaces. People from city A work in town B, and some fraction of people in town B work in city C and so on. Towns A and Z are connected by just a few days worth of normal commute for thousands of people.