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New Zealand might not have regional accents but it does have sociolects with accompanying stereotypes which in the context of this article amounts to the same t

by bedobi 6y ago

New Zealand might not have regional accents but it does have sociolects with accompanying stereotypes which in the context of this article amounts to the same thing.

robocat 6y ago
Exactly. Shazza the bogan has a completely different accent from bro Rangi, who sounds completely different to classy old Muriel; while farmer Jim has yet another clearly different accent. I think the differences between these accents are broadening over time i.e. I think social clique accents have got stronger. There are few regional differences (mostly city versus rural). https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/lingvan/1/1/article-p235.xml https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/lingvan/1/1/article-...
- EdwardDiego 6y ago
  Hmm, yes I'd agree to that extent, I guess I can't comment on how widespread discrimination based on that stuff is. I mean, I went to a private school (for a year, and then they kicked me out) with people whose parents specially sent to them to a primary school that deliberately taught its own distinct accent[1], so I would imagine there's areas of Christchurch social life and/or commerce that are contingent on that. But then I know there's already discrimination based on which school old boy/girl tie you wear (if any) in those same circles, and there were plenty of "bro Rangi" and "farmer Jim" at that school with me who ended up with that tie, and likewise ended up doing well in their professional life in firms filled with people from that same school. So maybe the accent doesn't matter so much in those 'elite' circles so much as the money and the people you know. We don't really have an old money / new money divide in NZ, unless you take members of the First Four Ships Association seriously (pro-tip, only members of the FFSA take them seriously). [1]: https://www.medbury.school.nz https://www.medbury.school.nz

by bedobi 6y ago

New Zealand might not have regional accents but it does have sociolects with accompanying stereotypes which in the context of this article amounts to the same thing.

robocat 6y ago

Exactly. Shazza the bogan has a completely different accent from bro Rangi, who sounds completely different to classy old Muriel; while farmer Jim has yet another clearly different accent. I think the differences between these accents are broadening over time i.e. I think social clique accents have got stronger. There are few regional differences (mostly city versus rural). https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/lingvan/1/1/article-p235.xml https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/lingvan/1/1/article-...

EdwardDiego 6y ago
Hmm, yes I'd agree to that extent, I guess I can't comment on how widespread discrimination based on that stuff is. I mean, I went to a private school (for a year, and then they kicked me out) with people whose parents specially sent to them to a primary school that deliberately taught its own distinct accent[1], so I would imagine there's areas of Christchurch social life and/or commerce that are contingent on that. But then I know there's already discrimination based on which school old boy/girl tie you wear (if any) in those same circles, and there were plenty of "bro Rangi" and "farmer Jim" at that school with me who ended up with that tie, and likewise ended up doing well in their professional life in firms filled with people from that same school. So maybe the accent doesn't matter so much in those 'elite' circles so much as the money and the people you know. We don't really have an old money / new money divide in NZ, unless you take members of the First Four Ships Association seriously (pro-tip, only members of the FFSA take them seriously). [1]: https://www.medbury.school.nz https://www.medbury.school.nz