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Sure, but all of those things are considerably better now than at every point in history, the fact you'd write this even ... Do you realize that up until about
by jariel 6y ago
Sure, but all of those things are considerably better now than at every point in history, the fact you'd write this even ...
Do you realize that up until about 2 generations ago that nobody had fulfilling work? That work was just labour? 3 Generations ago you worked on the farm, or in the factory, or keeping the shop for meagre wages. In 1960 only about 8% went to university. In 1900 it was probably only 1%.
Literally we live in a world where people can be or do anything they want. This is the first time in history this was even thinkable.
'Having no prospects for retirement' ?? Retirement is a modern concept. 1.5 Generations ago you worked, retired and very quickly died! You lived a few years maybe and that was that. And there wasn't much in the way of support, expectations, or even things to do. Government workers expected 'full comp' in retirement because they only lived a few years. The notion has changed dramatically and it's why our finances are so out of order. You do realize that 'social security' is a very modern concept, right?
People are living literally '3rd lives' now, decades into retirement, and generally much more fulfilling.
'Healthcare'? We are only 2 generations into socialized medicine! Again, the fact most Westerners have access to great healthcare, most of their lives, means they are living at vastly higher standards of living than in any era.
My grandparents were born on farms, with no plumbing or running water, and not electricity. Taxes were extremely low, and most people didn't go to high school (my grandmother did). There was no social security/insurance/retirement. There was no socialized medicine whatsoever. We were barely into having antibiotics. People worked hard and died at 65 from the large variety of ailments which we can now treat, push off, work around etc..
And finally - home ownership - again - a very new concept, only a couple of generations in. 'Retail Banking' is a very modern convention to the point wherein 'owning your own home' is really a '1st generation' concept even in parts of the Latin world. 'Home ownership' was largely driven by 'new world' ideals (US/Canada) where the land was not spoken for - which was a major political idea.
'Social Isolation'? Try living on a farm, where there are
almost no cars, and it takes 1/2 day by train to get to the nearest 10 000 person population centre. We are materially less isolated than ever before.
I don't doubt the notion of feeling isolated, but it's almost as though we need to chose our words better, because whatever we mean when we say 'isolation' it's literally not that, but I agree it's a growing problem. I suggest it's a growing problem of people not participating in their own cultures.
Unconditionally, life is materially better. Whether life is better overall, that's a hard thing to say, but we are undeniably 'rich' as a class of people (anyone reading this). We have the gift of massive surplus and bounty, it's now a matter of being able to socially make do with that.
- sebmellen 6y agoIf you live in a city with a large homeless population, I think it would be interesting for you to go and talk with them. I live in San Diego, and I've talked to hundreds of homeless people while doing volunteer work and photography. You would not believe how many people, though they may be mentally ill, are smart, honest, good people, who just got fucked by the system. They're out here scrounging for food and getting Hepatitis A and dying in the canyons and not getting any medical or dental care, and their lives are incredibly hopeless. To take the Steven Pinker-ish approach, and talk about about how great everything is, comes off as ignorant/dismissive of these real problems. I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true, but the average person is (relatively) not better off than 50 years ago. See https://wtfhappenedin1971.com https://wtfhappenedin1971.com.
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoWest coast cities homelessness problems are indicative of nothing more than the specific economic and political realities in those cities. It is folly to extrapolate that to larger macroeconomic conditions. While some specific cities may have their heads up their butts with regard to public policy resulting in more visible homeless the living conditions of the "almost homeless" and working poor have very much improved since the early 1970s (as far back as my knowledge goes). You can say what you want about the blue collar middle class (off-shoring and student debt have hit them hard over the past decades) but things have very much been improving up for the poor as a whole even though some poor people are unlucky enough to live in backwards places where things have gotten worse locally.
- sebmellen 6y agoThat's just not true. Please don't spread this kind of misinformation. Many cities and states bus their homeless into California. Drug addiction, homelessness, and mental illness are all huge problems throughout the US (though also in Europe, et al.). The downfall of the middle class is the downfall of everyone except the super-rich. Some kind of Portugal drug model / New Deal-type infrastructure plan would be necessary to fix this problem, which is present all across the US. Why do you think Donald Trump got elected? It wasn't bigots in the Midwest — it was impoverishment. See: — https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/us/homeless-busing-seattle-san-francisco.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/us/homeless-busing-seattl... — https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/... — https://www.mintpressnews.com/500-homeless-mental-patients-were-given-bus-pass-california-by-nevada-government-program/210607/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/500-homeless-mental-patients-w...