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Regenerative brakes rely on friction just like any other. Pollution is a given.
by nwah1 6y ago
Regenerative brakes rely on friction just like any other. Pollution is a given.
- durkie 6y agoWhat friction? The "regenerative" part is from the motors being driven in reverse and returning power to the battery.
- nitrogen 6y agoRolling friction in the tires / the contact patch's static friction.
- culopatin 6y agoThis variable is a constant between both types of brakes. How is this relevant when comparing brakes? They both need it, one puts energy into a battery, the other one just heats up air due to the friction created by the system.
- nitrogen 6y agoIt's relevant to the question of whether regenerative braking produces dust from tire wear.
- TheGallopedHigh 6y agoAs compared to just straight braking — hence it’s irrelevant
- nitrogen 6y agoThe whole thread started with this message: > Regenerative brakes rely on friction just like any other. Pollution is a given. The article is about pollution from tires. Regenerative breaking can't cheat the laws of physics. That force has to be applied to the road through tires, just like any other form of wheel braking. And tires have significantly more mass to shed over their lives than brake pads.
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- klyrs 6y agoRegenerative brakes translate kinetic energy into stored potential energy, with marginal friction and resistive losses. Friction brakes translate 100% of the kinetic energy into waste heat, through abrasion. While it's true that regenerative brakes are not frictionless, none that I'm aware of rely on friction. One could imagine using a clutch to controllably wind/unwind a spring, for example, but auto manufacturers aren't rinky-dink steampunkers and even so you'd still do everything you could to minimize clutch slippage.
- magicalhippo 6y ago> While it's true that regenerative brakes are not frictionless, none that I'm aware of rely on friction. They rely on the friction between the tire and the road, wearing the tire down, releasing the microplastic particles.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> They rely on the friction between the tire and the road I don't think the tire is what people mean when they talk about the brakes. They mean the brake pads and other brake components.
- jeddy3 6y agoIt's literally what the linked article talks about, tyre wear not break wear.
- chrisseaton 6y agoThis thread started when someone said ‘both brakes and tyres emit pollution’. The point was the brakes don’t when they’re regenerative. I’m sure the tyres still do. But that wasn’t what the thread was about.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> Regenerative brakes rely on friction just like any other. I thought the resistance was provided by magnets in the motor? How do you think they capturing energy from friction?