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Shall we talk about the name? Or does nobody care about the impact of subconscious bias in adoption of dev tools and ai should shut up ? :-)

kroltan 6y ago
What about it? Searching for "pijul -vcs" shows images of birds, which is reasonable?
- notmars 6y ago
  1- I’m not sure how to pronounce it (maybe it s just me), ‘j’ has a lot of depth consonent-wise (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_approximant https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_approximant) 2- what’s the story behind it (strong believer in the importance of symbols and what they attach to) 3- what is it supposed to make me think of? A pidgeon? So it’s everywhere and defecate randomly on people? I must also postface: I understand it’s a spanish word meant to evoke a bird (what for?) and maybe I’m the only one that believes that simple evocative name change anything, but hey, here you are in that thread :-p
  - dan-robertson 6y ago
    For 1, the name of the bird is Spanish so you could pronounce the j as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative Alternatively you could just read it without that knowledge and pronounce it however you like. As far as I’m aware it follows a theme of other bird names for other parts of the project. It seems fine compared to eg mercurial (if you spend a lot of time with it you go mad?) or git (the word you mutter under your breath as you use it?)
songqin 6y ago
what's wrong with the name?
gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
Yea I was searching to see if anyone else would mention this, especially seeing the uproar about GIMP, etc. I don’t care about the naming dispute stuff, but this is comically close to pee-hole.
dxdm 6y ago
Even if we disregard the riddle of its meaning, I have no idea how to pronounce the name. Pee? Pye? Then, a "jay" sound, or a Spanish "junta", or a French "Jules"? And then how is the "u" pronounced? I'm confused. Pidgel?

kroltan 6y ago

What about it? Searching for "pijul -vcs" shows images of birds, which is reasonable?

notmars 6y ago
1- I’m not sure how to pronounce it (maybe it s just me), ‘j’ has a lot of depth consonent-wise (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_approximant https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_approximant) 2- what’s the story behind it (strong believer in the importance of symbols and what they attach to) 3- what is it supposed to make me think of? A pidgeon? So it’s everywhere and defecate randomly on people? I must also postface: I understand it’s a spanish word meant to evoke a bird (what for?) and maybe I’m the only one that believes that simple evocative name change anything, but hey, here you are in that thread :-p
- dan-robertson 6y ago
  For 1, the name of the bird is Spanish so you could pronounce the j as https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative Alternatively you could just read it without that knowledge and pronounce it however you like. As far as I’m aware it follows a theme of other bird names for other parts of the project. It seems fine compared to eg mercurial (if you spend a lot of time with it you go mad?) or git (the word you mutter under your breath as you use it?)

songqin 6y ago

what's wrong with the name?

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago

Yea I was searching to see if anyone else would mention this, especially seeing the uproar about GIMP, etc. I don’t care about the naming dispute stuff, but this is comically close to pee-hole.

dxdm 6y ago

Even if we disregard the riddle of its meaning, I have no idea how to pronounce the name. Pee? Pye? Then, a "jay" sound, or a Spanish "junta", or a French "Jules"? And then how is the "u" pronounced? I'm confused. Pidgel?