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"We"? I think a lot of the Scandiwegian countries already decided that rehabilitation is the best course. You may agree/disagree with that, I'm just pointing ou

"We"? I think a lot of the Scandiwegian countries already decided that rehabilitation is the best course. You may agree/disagree with that, I'm just pointing out that the discussion has been had (and is essentially over) in quite a few places. EDIT: Also, I absolutely agree, fwiw. If the discussion hasn't been had in your country, please do push for it.

pstuart 6y ago
Sorry, I pulled an americanism and had the US primarily in mind :-). Scandiwegia is a lovely exception and should be rightfully proud of that.
- Quekid5 6y ago
  No worries :).
- ant6n 6y ago
  Wtf is Scandiwegia?
  - pstuart 6y ago
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scandiwegian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scandiwegian First time I've heard of it as well. I like it.
    - ant6n 6y ago
      Last I checked Norwegia is part of Scandinavia (??)
      - ant6n 6y ago
        (I mean Norway)
danielscrubs 6y ago
Well it’s not surprising. Prison is basically a school for criminals on how to become even better at being criminals. Our Scandinavian politicians are almost solely focused on the number off how likely a person is to commit a crime after a prison sentence has been fulfilled, and our stats say that criminals become worse, so they shorten the prison sentence more and more. The prison system is broken because hanging around with morally broken people is not good for anyone. Let me point out that prison sentences for minor drug offenses are quite rare so we don’t have much of that particular problem.
- pstuart 6y ago
  The War on Drugs was literally designed to create more criminals -- and only in that has it been successful.
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    No, it was designed to reduce crime and drug availability. Nobody would design a program with the goal of creating more crime.
    - pstuart 6y ago
      There's plenty of evidence out there that refutes your assumption (happy to provide it if you're interested). It's not that they wanted more crime -- they wanted criminalized behavior to wield as a weapon against people of color (and hippies, in Nixon's case). If it was ever about reducing harm from drugs there's plenty of better ways to do that, don't you think?

pstuart 6y ago

Sorry, I pulled an americanism and had the US primarily in mind :-). Scandiwegia is a lovely exception and should be rightfully proud of that.

Quekid5 6y ago
No worries :).
ant6n 6y ago
Wtf is Scandiwegia?
- pstuart 6y ago
  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scandiwegian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scandiwegian First time I've heard of it as well. I like it.
  - ant6n 6y ago
    Last I checked Norwegia is part of Scandinavia (??)
    - ant6n 6y ago
      (I mean Norway)

danielscrubs 6y ago

Well it’s not surprising. Prison is basically a school for criminals on how to become even better at being criminals. Our Scandinavian politicians are almost solely focused on the number off how likely a person is to commit a crime after a prison sentence has been fulfilled, and our stats say that criminals become worse, so they shorten the prison sentence more and more. The prison system is broken because hanging around with morally broken people is not good for anyone. Let me point out that prison sentences for minor drug offenses are quite rare so we don’t have much of that particular problem.

pstuart 6y ago
The War on Drugs was literally designed to create more criminals -- and only in that has it been successful.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  No, it was designed to reduce crime and drug availability. Nobody would design a program with the goal of creating more crime.
  - pstuart 6y ago
    There's plenty of evidence out there that refutes your assumption (happy to provide it if you're interested). It's not that they wanted more crime -- they wanted criminalized behavior to wield as a weapon against people of color (and hippies, in Nixon's case). If it was ever about reducing harm from drugs there's plenty of better ways to do that, don't you think?