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Both of these taught me that Kubernetes is extremely complex, and that most people who are trying to use it are not prepared for the sheer amount of work that l
by brown9-2 6y ago
Both of these taught me that Kubernetes is extremely complex, and that most people who are trying to use it are not prepared for the sheer amount of work that lies between the marketing brochure and the system those brochures promise.
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GKE SRE taught me that even the foremost Kubernetes experts cannot safely operate Kubernetes at scale.
This is rough to hear coming from a former engineer at a top cloud company which has often lead the way on “marketing brochures”.
- corytheboyd 6y agoOut of curiosity, is it rough hearing that the author felt lied to by the marketing, or that you worked for one of the companies doing it, or something else?
- brown9-2 6y agoas a customer of the mentioned cloud managed service
- dave_universetf 6y agoAuthor here. If I had to run Kubernetes for money-making purposes, I would still seriously consider GKE. I still think they're the best at running k8s. It's just that k8s limits what any operator can hope for.
- markbnj 6y agoIt caught my eye too, but if this perception is true they do a pretty good job of faking it. I don't know if our clusters are "at scale" - the largest of them has about 120 nodes - but we have had very few issues in over three years of running production workloads on GKE.
- jml78 6y agoI got involved very early and had to roll my own implementation using terraform and shell scripts. It has been in productions for a long time without issue. Only downside is that we have to do blue green upgrades for major versions instead of in-place upgrades. I keep pushing for our customer to adopt eks or gke, anything but my custom code base.
- AnotherTechie 6y agoGKE SRE feels all the pain of kubernetes and none of the pleasure. You don't get paged to be told that the fleet is happy.
- markbnj 6y agoAbsolutely true!