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> The GNU/Linux developers unwilling to support GNU/Linux hardware vendors are the ones to blame. Can you elaborate on this?

bzb6 6y ago
He probably means the global bitching about the way nvidia develops their drivers.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Nothing to do with NVidia, see my reply.
pjmlp 6y ago
People that buy Apple hardware, giving money to Apple, then bitch about Apple not supporting developers, when they actually only care about developing for GNU/Linux, and use macOS as a pretty "Linux". If they really cared, like myself (1215B owner), they would be giving money to Tuxedo, System 76, Dell, Asus, and whatever else that is shipping hardware with Linux distributions pre-installed.
- toyg 6y ago
  Guilty as charged. But damn, every time I used Linux on laptops up to 2012, batteries would invariably run out in 2 hours max, sleep/hibernate would fail half the time, fans would never stop, and 3d drivers were a tire fire... It has been nice not having to think about all of that for almost a decade. I am very tempted to go back to Linux sometime next year, but I really fear I'd end up in the same situation (or worse, since I'm also reliant on scaled HiDpi screens now and support for that sort of thing is completely absent in some distros).
  - devenblake 6y ago
    A lot of people here talk about Linux making laptops die really soon but I have no clue what the hell y'all are talking about. For me switching to Linux normally makes the battery go 2-5x slower. The laptop on which I'm typing (a T420) lasted half an hour on Windows 10 and two hours on Debian when it had the original battery, now that I've replaced it it gets 5hrs on Linux and maybe two max on Windows 10. About the same on Windows 7. Of course it depends on how you configure it but if you've really de-bloated your system you can get much more out of the battery than Windows can. I've been able to get more battery out of a recent Inspiron, a less recent Toshiba Satellite, this Thinkpad, and an old Samsung netbook, so I could be biased by my hardware. Nowadays it's much easier to get higher-level Linux support, too.

bzb6 6y ago

He probably means the global bitching about the way nvidia develops their drivers.

pjmlp 6y ago
Nothing to do with NVidia, see my reply.

pjmlp 6y ago

People that buy Apple hardware, giving money to Apple, then bitch about Apple not supporting developers, when they actually only care about developing for GNU/Linux, and use macOS as a pretty "Linux". If they really cared, like myself (1215B owner), they would be giving money to Tuxedo, System 76, Dell, Asus, and whatever else that is shipping hardware with Linux distributions pre-installed.

toyg 6y ago
Guilty as charged. But damn, every time I used Linux on laptops up to 2012, batteries would invariably run out in 2 hours max, sleep/hibernate would fail half the time, fans would never stop, and 3d drivers were a tire fire... It has been nice not having to think about all of that for almost a decade. I am very tempted to go back to Linux sometime next year, but I really fear I'd end up in the same situation (or worse, since I'm also reliant on scaled HiDpi screens now and support for that sort of thing is completely absent in some distros).
- devenblake 6y ago
  A lot of people here talk about Linux making laptops die really soon but I have no clue what the hell y'all are talking about. For me switching to Linux normally makes the battery go 2-5x slower. The laptop on which I'm typing (a T420) lasted half an hour on Windows 10 and two hours on Debian when it had the original battery, now that I've replaced it it gets 5hrs on Linux and maybe two max on Windows 10. About the same on Windows 7. Of course it depends on how you configure it but if you've really de-bloated your system you can get much more out of the battery than Windows can. I've been able to get more battery out of a recent Inspiron, a less recent Toshiba Satellite, this Thinkpad, and an old Samsung netbook, so I could be biased by my hardware. Nowadays it's much easier to get higher-level Linux support, too.