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Is there a sufficiently free license under which we can modify and republish the text?

by pohl 16y ago

rglullis 16y ago
http://creativecommons.org/ http://creativecommons.org/
- anonymoushn 16y ago
  I saw no indication in the article or at the site you linked that the books were licensed under any libre license.
sandal 16y ago
I dug around for a while looking for this as well, since it was absent from the main announcement. But the ordering page for both books allows you to download a PDF immediately, without charge. It looks like Free as in Freedom 2.0 is under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.3, and Free Software, Free Society allows verbatim copying by anyone, and translation by those who have been approved by the FSF (i.e. it is not a free documentation license) Not sure how you get at the actual manuscripts, you may need to contact FSF for that. EDIT: Here are the links to the PDFs http://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf http://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/faif-2.0.pdf http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/faif-2.0.pdf
- pohl 16y ago
  Free Software, Free Society allows verbatim copying by anyone, and translation by those who have been approved by the FSF Thank you for sharing what you found. I can't, in good conscience, read a book that only allows modification and redistribution by those in a privileged class. Our basic liberties are under assault here!
  - ekidd 16y ago
    To be fair to Stallman, he has always distinguished between "functional" works, such as technical manuals and encyclopedias, and works which express a specific person's opinion. In the former case, Stallman believes that it's useful to modify works: You might want to update a technical manual for a new version of the software, or you might want to fix articles in the encyclopedia. But in the latter case, you're generally not inconvenienced by the fact that you can't edit someone's written opinions. So in these cases, Stallman tends to favor licenses which allow copying, but not modification.
- Luyt 16y ago
  Thanks for the links, I appreciate it.
trotsky 16y ago
This is Free as in Freedom 2.0: Richard Stallman and the Free Software Revolution, a revision of Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software. Copyright 2002, 2010 Sam Williams Copyright 2010 Richard M. Stallman Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License." Say what you will about Stallman, but I've never heard anyone accuse him of not living by his principles.

Is there a sufficiently free license under which we can modify and republish the text?

by pohl 16y ago

Is there a sufficiently free license under which we can modify and republish the text?

rglullis 16y ago

http://creativecommons.org/ http://creativecommons.org/

anonymoushn 16y ago
I saw no indication in the article or at the site you linked that the books were licensed under any libre license.

sandal 16y ago

I dug around for a while looking for this as well, since it was absent from the main announcement. But the ordering page for both books allows you to download a PDF immediately, without charge. It looks like Free as in Freedom 2.0 is under the GNU Free Documentation License 1.3, and Free Software, Free Society allows verbatim copying by anyone, and translation by those who have been approved by the FSF (i.e. it is not a free documentation license) Not sure how you get at the actual manuscripts, you may need to contact FSF for that. EDIT: Here are the links to the PDFs http://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf http://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/faif-2.0.pdf http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/faif-2.0.pdf

pohl 16y ago
Free Software, Free Society allows verbatim copying by anyone, and translation by those who have been approved by the FSF Thank you for sharing what you found. I can't, in good conscience, read a book that only allows modification and redistribution by those in a privileged class. Our basic liberties are under assault here!
- ekidd 16y ago
  To be fair to Stallman, he has always distinguished between "functional" works, such as technical manuals and encyclopedias, and works which express a specific person's opinion. In the former case, Stallman believes that it's useful to modify works: You might want to update a technical manual for a new version of the software, or you might want to fix articles in the encyclopedia. But in the latter case, you're generally not inconvenienced by the fact that you can't edit someone's written opinions. So in these cases, Stallman tends to favor licenses which allow copying, but not modification.
Luyt 16y ago
Thanks for the links, I appreciate it.

trotsky 16y ago

This is Free as in Freedom 2.0: Richard Stallman and the Free Software Revolution, a revision of Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software. Copyright 2002, 2010 Sam Williams Copyright 2010 Richard M. Stallman Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License." Say what you will about Stallman, but I've never heard anyone accuse him of not living by his principles.