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It's not just payment processing. A app store offers reliable hosting of the game binaries and provides a versioning and upgrade mechanism on a platform with b

It's not just payment processing. A app store offers reliable hosting of the game binaries and provides a versioning and upgrade mechanism on a platform with billions of user accounts. Keeps the user's OS and device drivers up to date, maintains the OS and develops the hardware that it runs on. Maintains the developer tools, compilers, documentation, so that your binary can run on the device's OS. These things are expensive. I don't know how much exactly it would cost a company like Roblox to develop and maintain all the necessary tools and services provided by the app stores in order to run on all those devices. Probably a lot. In fact, if they could do it, they would be Apple or Google :). Whether it's a lot more than it should be, I don't know, but it helps to keep in mind that the app store cut is for a lot more than just payment processing.

dwild 6y ago
> Keeps the user's OS and device drivers up to date, maintains the OS and develops the hardware that it runs on. That's a license fee that you pay once you buy the device. It shouldn't be buying applications for it that fund it. In fact considering how little older phones get supported, it's pretty meaningless to say that it's to keep devices drivers up to date as they aren't ;). > Maintains the developer tools, compilers, documentation, so that your binary can run on the device's OS. Again, it's the customer that pay for it once he buy the device. > A app store offers reliable hosting of the game binaries and provides a versioning and upgrade mechanism on a platform with billions of user accounts. It doesn't cost 25% to host game binaries. I'm pretty sure Roblox host it all on Windows for example... By the way, on Android, the license fee isn't for the Android system, it's for the Google Play services specifically. So that 40$ you paid, it's going toward the shop already.
- ryanlol 6y ago
  > In fact considering how little older phones get supported True for android devices, not for iOS.
cblconfederate 6y ago
Has this cost not gone down a single percent in 15 years?
tmpz22 6y ago
Nobody is arguing that Google or Apple shouldn't make money. People are discouraged because these companies are double and triple dipping into their customers after record gargantuan profits. Google and Apple employees and especially executives enjoy a standard of living in the top 1% of the world. Why do they have to grab an extra $5 here and $10 there from the barista who works at starbucks, or the indie app developer in Bangladesh?
- youeseh 6y ago
  Just like the indie app developer is trying to improve their standard of living, so are the folks at Apple and Google. We all want to progress, no matter how high up we already are. Those Cupertino mortgages aren't going to pay for themselves.
  - tmpz22 6y ago
    Cupertino mortgages are already paid for, so are Lake Tahoe vacation homes, this one is for the Aspen Rental complexes.
CyberDildonics 6y ago
The idea that hosting binaries and search would be anywhere close to 30% of an app store revenue is completely ridiculous.

dwild 6y ago

> Keeps the user's OS and device drivers up to date, maintains the OS and develops the hardware that it runs on. That's a license fee that you pay once you buy the device. It shouldn't be buying applications for it that fund it. In fact considering how little older phones get supported, it's pretty meaningless to say that it's to keep devices drivers up to date as they aren't ;). > Maintains the developer tools, compilers, documentation, so that your binary can run on the device's OS. Again, it's the customer that pay for it once he buy the device. > A app store offers reliable hosting of the game binaries and provides a versioning and upgrade mechanism on a platform with billions of user accounts. It doesn't cost 25% to host game binaries. I'm pretty sure Roblox host it all on Windows for example... By the way, on Android, the license fee isn't for the Android system, it's for the Google Play services specifically. So that 40$ you paid, it's going toward the shop already.

ryanlol 6y ago
> In fact considering how little older phones get supported True for android devices, not for iOS.

cblconfederate 6y ago

Has this cost not gone down a single percent in 15 years?

tmpz22 6y ago

Nobody is arguing that Google or Apple shouldn't make money. People are discouraged because these companies are double and triple dipping into their customers after record gargantuan profits. Google and Apple employees and especially executives enjoy a standard of living in the top 1% of the world. Why do they have to grab an extra $5 here and $10 there from the barista who works at starbucks, or the indie app developer in Bangladesh?

youeseh 6y ago
Just like the indie app developer is trying to improve their standard of living, so are the folks at Apple and Google. We all want to progress, no matter how high up we already are. Those Cupertino mortgages aren't going to pay for themselves.
- tmpz22 6y ago
  Cupertino mortgages are already paid for, so are Lake Tahoe vacation homes, this one is for the Aspen Rental complexes.

CyberDildonics 6y ago

The idea that hosting binaries and search would be anywhere close to 30% of an app store revenue is completely ridiculous.