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The thing is, its not wrong. You can't fight a misinformation campaign by attacking the simple truths that keep it functional as a conspiracy theory. The clim

The thing is, its not wrong. You can't fight a misinformation campaign by attacking the simple truths that keep it functional as a conspiracy theory. The climate is always changing. Even if we survive the local warming period, we're just as likely to fall into a brutal ice age right afterwards, of which humanity will not survive unless we very quickly learn how to do planetary-scale geoengineering and terraforming. My problem with the whole "climate change is fake" conspiracy nuts is... why aren't they just going for the obvious one that the governments just don't care and aren't fixing the larger issue? The amount the US government spent on the endless war in Iraq and Afghanistan could have ensured the survival of the human race. A nice big juicy conspiracy right there, and none of them are going for it. Government fucked up? Check. People profited from war? Check. Media is refusing to cover it? Check. Come on, take the fucking bait and run with it.

brippalcharrid 6y ago
I think that people are proposing a conspiracy theory as you've described there; I think it goes along with phrases such as "The Deep State" and "Our Greatest Ally".
- loopz 6y ago
  It also goes along with purging people representing a different perspective than "The Cure". That there's no real plan other than being puppets to billionaires, doesn't phase these groups. That their leaders are willing to seed chaos, destruction and war, for political gains and power, seems also to fly right by.
  - brippalcharrid 6y ago
    Interesting! That sounds like a very different conspiracy theory to the one that I had encountered, but I suppose this isn't really the appropriate forum to go into the gritty details of stuff like that.
SaltedCashews 6y ago
What Western government isn't all-in on climate change? Am I misunderstanding your point? As someone you'd probably describe as a climate skeptic, I think governments are capitalising expertly on this. They have hysterical populations literally begging for bigger and broader taxation; all they have to do is not be greedy. Exploit as much as they can get away with, and no more. That means pandering to the cronyists and greenies begging for taxes (that they won't pay) under the guise of environmentalism, without getting so carried away that the working class father decides enough is enough. That's what they're doing. How is a conspiracy around government inaction going to work when I read about new regulations, committees, levies and taxes every time I open a newspaper?
melling 6y ago
Exactly, that’s why we need a bot to respond. It’s an irrelevant fact that doesn’t apply to the problem. If anyone needs to be told that difference between the climate changing over 200 years and 10,000 years...

brippalcharrid 6y ago

I think that people are proposing a conspiracy theory as you've described there; I think it goes along with phrases such as "The Deep State" and "Our Greatest Ally".

loopz 6y ago
It also goes along with purging people representing a different perspective than "The Cure". That there's no real plan other than being puppets to billionaires, doesn't phase these groups. That their leaders are willing to seed chaos, destruction and war, for political gains and power, seems also to fly right by.
- brippalcharrid 6y ago
  Interesting! That sounds like a very different conspiracy theory to the one that I had encountered, but I suppose this isn't really the appropriate forum to go into the gritty details of stuff like that.

SaltedCashews 6y ago

What Western government isn't all-in on climate change? Am I misunderstanding your point? As someone you'd probably describe as a climate skeptic, I think governments are capitalising expertly on this. They have hysterical populations literally begging for bigger and broader taxation; all they have to do is not be greedy. Exploit as much as they can get away with, and no more. That means pandering to the cronyists and greenies begging for taxes (that they won't pay) under the guise of environmentalism, without getting so carried away that the working class father decides enough is enough. That's what they're doing. How is a conspiracy around government inaction going to work when I read about new regulations, committees, levies and taxes every time I open a newspaper?

melling 6y ago

Exactly, that’s why we need a bot to respond. It’s an irrelevant fact that doesn’t apply to the problem. If anyone needs to be told that difference between the climate changing over 200 years and 10,000 years...