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> Before the pandemic, my household purchased items online for delivery perhaps 1x per week. Now, it's 2-3x per day. Clothing, LPs, pearl milk tea, ... What ar

> Before the pandemic, my household purchased items online for delivery perhaps 1x per week. Now, it's 2-3x per day. Clothing, LPs, pearl milk tea, ... What are you ordering per day? I'm happy knowing that I can survive not leaving the house if I need to by doing a single bulk online food shop once every two or three weeks. Then I might need the odd delivery for broken light bulbs and things I couldn't foresee. I also don't need a car at all as there's enough shops in walking distance and decent public transport. I second the concerns about the carbon footprint of frequent orders. At the very least, people should try to do bulk orders and avoid buying stuff they don't need. Driving around 3 times a day to buy stuff shouldn't be the norm either.

zests 6y ago
How many trips to the store do these deliveries save? If I order something small it likely hitches a ride with my neighbors delivery and the delivery of the package itself will have negligible carbon footprint.
- seanwilson 6y ago
  How much extra packaging are you introducing with many small orders vs bulk orders? Food shops in the UK can deliver without any bags at all for example. A single bottle of something from Amazon for instance will likely come in a cardboard box with some kind of plastic bubble wrap. And is it really true that the driver is going to have items to delivery to almost every block of houses every day? Not everyone is shopping from the same retailer either.
  - ChickeNES 6y ago
    > And is it really true that the driver is going to have items to delivery to almost every block of houses every day? Not everyone is shopping from the same retailer either. My apartment literally has Amazon drivers coming twice a day with a cart full of packages
11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
Pandemic-style living with wife & 2 adult, self-sufficient daughters. All 3 of them working from home and shopping for entertainment & to battle boredom. Those items above are examples of what actually shows up at the front door. Groceries as well, either from Costco (usually a large order) or Whole Foods (for stuff they can't get at Costco). Sometimes baking HW (a new hobby for one of them). Sometimes, it's boyfriends that drop off Trader Joe's or In-n-Out... None of us have set foot in a store since March.
- seanwilson 6y ago
  From a climate change perspective, it just doesn't sound sustainable that everyone lives like this no matter how you do it. There's plenty of ways to learn, entertain, cook etc. that don't require weekly physical purchases. It's insane what you can do with just the internet compared to 20 years ago. You don't need fancy equipment and ingredients to get deep into bread baking either. People shouldn't be discussing if it's better to do all these deliveries by car vs Amazon, but how we reduce excessive consumption and waste.
stjohnswarts 6y ago
The convenience of online is too convenient. I'm not a "gotta have it now" person very often. I generally don't like the general public either, if I hang out with people it's someone I care about or have somehting in common with (meetups and such). I can generally wait a day or two, and will plan meals around amazon deliveries a couple of day in advance. I don't have a lot of fridge storage space so I'll order Amazon Fresh every couple of days for food. I get most of my household items the same way. I generally plan ahead well enough and "buy in bulk" so that emergency runs happen very seldomly. I love the freedom of ordering online, also it's a lot more efficient and environmentally friendly than driving to a brick and mortar store.

zests 6y ago

How many trips to the store do these deliveries save? If I order something small it likely hitches a ride with my neighbors delivery and the delivery of the package itself will have negligible carbon footprint.

seanwilson 6y ago
How much extra packaging are you introducing with many small orders vs bulk orders? Food shops in the UK can deliver without any bags at all for example. A single bottle of something from Amazon for instance will likely come in a cardboard box with some kind of plastic bubble wrap. And is it really true that the driver is going to have items to delivery to almost every block of houses every day? Not everyone is shopping from the same retailer either.
- ChickeNES 6y ago
  > And is it really true that the driver is going to have items to delivery to almost every block of houses every day? Not everyone is shopping from the same retailer either. My apartment literally has Amazon drivers coming twice a day with a cart full of packages

11thEarlOfMar 6y ago

Pandemic-style living with wife & 2 adult, self-sufficient daughters. All 3 of them working from home and shopping for entertainment & to battle boredom. Those items above are examples of what actually shows up at the front door. Groceries as well, either from Costco (usually a large order) or Whole Foods (for stuff they can't get at Costco). Sometimes baking HW (a new hobby for one of them). Sometimes, it's boyfriends that drop off Trader Joe's or In-n-Out... None of us have set foot in a store since March.

seanwilson 6y ago
From a climate change perspective, it just doesn't sound sustainable that everyone lives like this no matter how you do it. There's plenty of ways to learn, entertain, cook etc. that don't require weekly physical purchases. It's insane what you can do with just the internet compared to 20 years ago. You don't need fancy equipment and ingredients to get deep into bread baking either. People shouldn't be discussing if it's better to do all these deliveries by car vs Amazon, but how we reduce excessive consumption and waste.

stjohnswarts 6y ago

The convenience of online is too convenient. I'm not a "gotta have it now" person very often. I generally don't like the general public either, if I hang out with people it's someone I care about or have somehting in common with (meetups and such). I can generally wait a day or two, and will plan meals around amazon deliveries a couple of day in advance. I don't have a lot of fridge storage space so I'll order Amazon Fresh every couple of days for food. I get most of my household items the same way. I generally plan ahead well enough and "buy in bulk" so that emergency runs happen very seldomly. I love the freedom of ordering online, also it's a lot more efficient and environmentally friendly than driving to a brick and mortar store.