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Synology vs. Nextcloud – Which Is Better for a Home Server?

40 points by ville 6y ago

smichel17 6y ago
From a quick look, Synology seems to be a proprietary [EDIT: not SaaS, just software]? I'll stick with Nextcloud, with which I am ethically aligned, thanks. [EDIT: point still applies. I'd prefer to use software that shares my values.]
- obenn 6y ago
  Synology is proprietary but not SaaS... just software. Only subscription I'm aware of them offering is storage per month for offsite backup.
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  - swirepe 6y ago
    You can also buy a license for their surveillance station if you need more than a few cameras, or their mail service. I'm sure there are a few others.
- jdboyd 6y ago
  It is proprietary, but it is also a hardware device, not just a software to install on a spare PC.
- alexvoda 6y ago
  Anyone using Windows or macOS should be ok with using Synology from an ethical perspective.
  - smichel17 6y ago
    Agreed, with one modification: anyone ok with using Windows or macOS should be ok with using Synology from an ethical perspective. Someone looking to transition away from proprietary OSes, or someone who is forced to use them for work but otherwise does not choose to use them, likely would prefer to avoid adding a new proprietary dependency to their life. For myself, I am down to: - Proprietary blobs used to interface with hardware (e.g. shipped with Fedora, used at boot time). I do not currently have a plan to address these. - Proprietary applications/services that I am unable to uninstall from my locked-down Android phone (e.g. Google Play Services). Planned to buy a Librem 5 as my next phone, if I deem it functional enough when my current phone breaks. - Proprietary chat applications for communicating with others (read: as a compromise to not withdraw from society): snapchat, discord, slack, zoom. No concrete plan to stop using these, but ongoing effort to convince others to use FLO tools instead (Signal, matrix/element, jitsi meet) and to compartmentalize and isolate them from the rest of my computing. - Android studio. Rarely used. Won't need after I switch phones. - Turbotax and associated Windows install, on separate hardware. Used once yearly. Planned to learn enough tax law to file by hand, or hire an accountant to do my taxes. - Many games. I consider this acceptable given few FLO alternatives of vaguely comparable quality. In the past I have run a separate Linux install for gaming, but found that less than ideal. Planned to use a separate user account instead, or maybe a chroot or jail. - Windows install, on a separate drive. Rarely used (maybe one week per year, usually for a game that doesn't work in wine). Planned to dump eventually -- at this point there are enough games that run natively on Linux or work in wine that I will never run out of quality games to play (especially as I have less and less time for this hobby). ...and I honestly can't think of anything else.
maremmano 6y ago
I think a proper comparison needs to be made between Synology and one of the following: FreeNAS - https://www.freenas.org/ https://www.freenas.org/ Unraid - https://unraid.net/ https://unraid.net/ OpenMediaVault - https://www.openmediavault.org/ https://www.openmediavault.org/ You also have: https://xpenology.org/ https://xpenology.org/
aborsy 6y ago
Synology NAS has a lot of good things to mention. But there are two down sides: * it’s closed source, a security concern * the encryption is bad. There is even apparently a universal key (unless you opt for not using its key management system) https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2019/11/synology-nas-encryption-forensic-analysis-of-synology-nas-devices/ https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2019/11/synology-nas-encryption-f...

40 points by ville 6y ago

From a quick look, Synology seems to be a proprietary [EDIT: not SaaS, just software]? I'll stick with Nextcloud, with which I am ethically aligned, thanks. [EDIT: point still applies. I'd prefer to use software that shares my values.]

obenn 6y ago
Synology is proprietary but not SaaS... just software. Only subscription I'm aware of them offering is storage per month for offsite backup.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- swirepe 6y ago
  You can also buy a license for their surveillance station if you need more than a few cameras, or their mail service. I'm sure there are a few others.
jdboyd 6y ago
It is proprietary, but it is also a hardware device, not just a software to install on a spare PC.
alexvoda 6y ago
Anyone using Windows or macOS should be ok with using Synology from an ethical perspective.
- smichel17 6y ago
  Agreed, with one modification: anyone ok with using Windows or macOS should be ok with using Synology from an ethical perspective. Someone looking to transition away from proprietary OSes, or someone who is forced to use them for work but otherwise does not choose to use them, likely would prefer to avoid adding a new proprietary dependency to their life. For myself, I am down to: - Proprietary blobs used to interface with hardware (e.g. shipped with Fedora, used at boot time). I do not currently have a plan to address these. - Proprietary applications/services that I am unable to uninstall from my locked-down Android phone (e.g. Google Play Services). Planned to buy a Librem 5 as my next phone, if I deem it functional enough when my current phone breaks. - Proprietary chat applications for communicating with others (read: as a compromise to not withdraw from society): snapchat, discord, slack, zoom. No concrete plan to stop using these, but ongoing effort to convince others to use FLO tools instead (Signal, matrix/element, jitsi meet) and to compartmentalize and isolate them from the rest of my computing. - Android studio. Rarely used. Won't need after I switch phones. - Turbotax and associated Windows install, on separate hardware. Used once yearly. Planned to learn enough tax law to file by hand, or hire an accountant to do my taxes. - Many games. I consider this acceptable given few FLO alternatives of vaguely comparable quality. In the past I have run a separate Linux install for gaming, but found that less than ideal. Planned to use a separate user account instead, or maybe a chroot or jail. - Windows install, on a separate drive. Rarely used (maybe one week per year, usually for a game that doesn't work in wine). Planned to dump eventually -- at this point there are enough games that run natively on Linux or work in wine that I will never run out of quality games to play (especially as I have less and less time for this hobby). ...and I honestly can't think of anything else.

maremmano 6y ago

I think a proper comparison needs to be made between Synology and one of the following: FreeNAS - https://www.freenas.org/ https://www.freenas.org/ Unraid - https://unraid.net/ https://unraid.net/ OpenMediaVault - https://www.openmediavault.org/ https://www.openmediavault.org/ You also have: https://xpenology.org/ https://xpenology.org/

aborsy 6y ago

Synology NAS has a lot of good things to mention. But there are two down sides: * it’s closed source, a security concern * the encryption is bad. There is even apparently a universal key (unless you opt for not using its key management system) https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2019/11/synology-nas-encryption-forensic-analysis-of-synology-nas-devices/ https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2019/11/synology-nas-encryption-f...