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Knitting glove fingers: https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0 https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0

by n0y8 6y ago

jansan 6y ago
You are probably right, which is a bit disappointing in this case.
- n0y8 6y ago
  The article goes into the measurements a lot, like the relation to inches. I thought inches were derived from fingers, like the thickness of a thumb. Just like a foot is derived from, you know; feet
tuco86 6y ago
your's is a better fit. but i felt instantly reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jC6sKnq_sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jC6sKnq_sE
shele 6y ago
Lol, I love jumping to conclusions but this is kind of obvious: https://www.favecrafts.com/Techniques/How-to-Knit-Wire-on-a-Spool https://www.favecrafts.com/Techniques/How-to-Knit-Wire-on-a-...
maxerickson 6y ago
This video shows it used after more practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLeEmU6I-M&list=PLrcUrvayabVubi-atz0O47G2m6MjFTgQ8&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLeEmU6I-M&list=PLrcUrvayab...
shele 6y ago
Perhaps not gloves.... https://shoeboxstudio.com/2014/08/24/make-a-wire-knitting-spool/ https://shoeboxstudio.com/2014/08/24/make-a-wire-knitting-sp...
Someone 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_knitting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_knitting: “The oldest knitted artifacts are socks from Egypt, dating from the 11th century CE. They are a very fine gauge, done with complex colourwork and some have a short row heel, which necessitates the purl stitch. These complexities suggest that knitting is even older than the archeological record can prove.” https://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/FEAThistory101.html https://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/FEAThistory101.html: “Linguistically, all evidence implies that knitting is a fairly recent invention. There are no ancient legends of knitting like there are legends of spinning and weaving (remember Arachne? Ixzaluoh? Nephthys? Amaterasu? Never mind... the numbers of weaving and spinning gods and mostly goddesses are legion). There are no ancient gods or goddesses who knit, no legend of how it was invented or given by the gods. That lack implies that it is a recent skill, developed after mythologies were established around the world. […] So what do we know? Knitting kind of appeared, poof, probably in Egypt or an adjoining land, sometime around 1000CE” ⇒ it’s not a given that knitting existed in Roman times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron dates them to the 2nd to 4th centuries AD)
jtwaleson 6y ago
Seems more reasonable than the article! But aren't there simpler methods for this? Iron tools were a big time and money investment right?
mrob 6y ago
I'm not convinced by this, because the object is more complicated and finely made than necessary for making glove fingers. Why a dodecahedron when only one face is used? Why are the holes so smooth and round, which would require extra hand filing to clean up the casting? Why multiple sizes of hole when the size of the glove finger is regulated by the yarn tension?
- maxerickson 6y ago
  There's 5 holes each that match right and left hands (hole sizes align with finger sizes). I wonder if the hole sizes are related to less durable (wooden?) objects used for stretching the fingers differently.
hprotagonist 6y ago
probably not; we can’t date knitting that early, and by a wide margin. The earliest knit goods are ~1000CE and Egyptian. The time period for these finds are ~>800 years earlier. Naalbinding existed then, and works fine for fingers with its regular tools, and is actually very different from knitting in its technique. I’m not convinced. I’m more concerned with the honest qualification of uncertainty in claims made about artifacts, though. The language of speculation and likelihood is a lot more intellectually honest than either the “ivory tower knows all” crowd OR the “folk wisdom knows all” gang’s respective positions. fwiw i’m also immediately suspicious whenever druids are invoked with any certainty: we know so shockingly little about them at all that the confidence interval on anything to do with them is super wide.

Knitting glove fingers: https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0 https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0

by n0y8 6y ago

Knitting glove fingers: https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0 https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0

jansan 6y ago

You are probably right, which is a bit disappointing in this case.

n0y8 6y ago
The article goes into the measurements a lot, like the relation to inches. I thought inches were derived from fingers, like the thickness of a thumb. Just like a foot is derived from, you know; feet

tuco86 6y ago

your's is a better fit. but i felt instantly reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jC6sKnq_sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jC6sKnq_sE

shele 6y ago

Lol, I love jumping to conclusions but this is kind of obvious: https://www.favecrafts.com/Techniques/How-to-Knit-Wire-on-a-Spool https://www.favecrafts.com/Techniques/How-to-Knit-Wire-on-a-...

maxerickson 6y ago

This video shows it used after more practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLeEmU6I-M&list=PLrcUrvayabVubi-atz0O47G2m6MjFTgQ8&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLeEmU6I-M&list=PLrcUrvayab...

shele 6y ago

Perhaps not gloves.... https://shoeboxstudio.com/2014/08/24/make-a-wire-knitting-spool/ https://shoeboxstudio.com/2014/08/24/make-a-wire-knitting-sp...

Someone 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_knitting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_knitting: “The oldest knitted artifacts are socks from Egypt, dating from the 11th century CE. They are a very fine gauge, done with complex colourwork and some have a short row heel, which necessitates the purl stitch. These complexities suggest that knitting is even older than the archeological record can prove.” https://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/FEAThistory101.html https://knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/FEAThistory101.html: “Linguistically, all evidence implies that knitting is a fairly recent invention. There are no ancient legends of knitting like there are legends of spinning and weaving (remember Arachne? Ixzaluoh? Nephthys? Amaterasu? Never mind... the numbers of weaving and spinning gods and mostly goddesses are legion). There are no ancient gods or goddesses who knit, no legend of how it was invented or given by the gods. That lack implies that it is a recent skill, developed after mythologies were established around the world. […] So what do we know? Knitting kind of appeared, poof, probably in Egypt or an adjoining land, sometime around 1000CE” ⇒ it’s not a given that knitting existed in Roman times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron dates them to the 2nd to 4th centuries AD)

jtwaleson 6y ago

Seems more reasonable than the article! But aren't there simpler methods for this? Iron tools were a big time and money investment right?

mrob 6y ago

I'm not convinced by this, because the object is more complicated and finely made than necessary for making glove fingers. Why a dodecahedron when only one face is used? Why are the holes so smooth and round, which would require extra hand filing to clean up the casting? Why multiple sizes of hole when the size of the glove finger is regulated by the yarn tension?

maxerickson 6y ago
There's 5 holes each that match right and left hands (hole sizes align with finger sizes). I wonder if the hole sizes are related to less durable (wooden?) objects used for stretching the fingers differently.

hprotagonist 6y ago

probably not; we can’t date knitting that early, and by a wide margin. The earliest knit goods are ~1000CE and Egyptian. The time period for these finds are ~>800 years earlier. Naalbinding existed then, and works fine for fingers with its regular tools, and is actually very different from knitting in its technique. I’m not convinced. I’m more concerned with the honest qualification of uncertainty in claims made about artifacts, though. The language of speculation and likelihood is a lot more intellectually honest than either the “ivory tower knows all” crowd OR the “folk wisdom knows all” gang’s respective positions. fwiw i’m also immediately suspicious whenever druids are invoked with any certainty: we know so shockingly little about them at all that the confidence interval on anything to do with them is super wide.