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Ugh. That “renounce your citizenship then” jibe speaks volumes about the revulsion felt by authoritarians for nonconformists. It is bigotry 101, and repeating i

Ugh. That “renounce your citizenship then” jibe speaks volumes about the revulsion felt by authoritarians for nonconformists. It is bigotry 101, and repeating it labels you personally. Fortunately, I’m perfectly capable of discharging my civic responsibilities without having to believe in some animistic delusion, any more than I need a church to supply a moral compass. My loyalty belongs to people, not places, and to cultures, not scriptures.

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AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Your loyalty belongs to people? No doubt that's why you called them "revisionist shitbirds" a few posts upthread.
- inopinatus 6y ago
  I merely leave that as a tripwire for anyone willing to reveal their hidden inner fascist.
blub 6y ago
In the end nations are the quintessential form of human political organization and they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism. Your attempts at equating patriotism with chauvinism and aggressive nationalism don't provoke revulsion, they just cause confusion as to what could move you to assert such absurdities. Words have clear meanings. You could save everyone some time by being precise instead of launching into pointless crusades.
- inopinatus 6y ago
  > nations are the quintessential form of human political organization That is false, hubristic, tautological, and lacking in either foresight or historical perspective. Nations in their current mode of the nation-state have barely existed for a couple of centuries. Like every other construct of mankind, they will be replaced. > they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism They rest on borders demarcated by political and ethnic violence, and institutions whose primary functions are to perpetuate their own existence, maintain a ruling class, and quell the populace. > You could save everyone some time by being precise instead of launching into pointless crusades You don't have to respond, but I don't take instructions to shut up from someone perpetuating abusive dogma.

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AnimalMuppet 6y ago

Your loyalty belongs to people? No doubt that's why you called them "revisionist shitbirds" a few posts upthread.

inopinatus 6y ago
I merely leave that as a tripwire for anyone willing to reveal their hidden inner fascist.

blub 6y ago

In the end nations are the quintessential form of human political organization and they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism. Your attempts at equating patriotism with chauvinism and aggressive nationalism don't provoke revulsion, they just cause confusion as to what could move you to assert such absurdities. Words have clear meanings. You could save everyone some time by being precise instead of launching into pointless crusades.

inopinatus 6y ago
> nations are the quintessential form of human political organization That is false, hubristic, tautological, and lacking in either foresight or historical perspective. Nations in their current mode of the nation-state have barely existed for a couple of centuries. Like every other construct of mankind, they will be replaced. > they rest upon the ideas of shared history, culture and patriotism They rest on borders demarcated by political and ethnic violence, and institutions whose primary functions are to perpetuate their own existence, maintain a ruling class, and quell the populace. > You could save everyone some time by being precise instead of launching into pointless crusades You don't have to respond, but I don't take instructions to shut up from someone perpetuating abusive dogma.