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Are the circumstances suspicious or is there nothing to worry about here? So sad and sorry for your loss.

siliconmountain 6y ago
No. Better to let law enforcement & the family consider that then speculate on an internet forum without any substantial or additional information.
- xoxoy 6y ago
  there’s information from this article at the time of the fire: https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 the thing that stood out to me was that it happened at 3:30 in the morning. unless he was sleeping, which it doesn’t say he was, then the time of day is certainly unusual. it also says he was trapped in the home and they had to use force to get to him, which would imply he was locked somewhere in the home.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    What about that article ties it to Hsieh? Other than being a recent house fire in Connecticut? It's certainly not the only one.
    - xoxoy 6y ago
      Because it matches the timeline and confirmed by multiple sources as him? https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1332560969747238912?s=21 https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1332560969747238912?s=...
      - tyingq 6y ago
        Multiple un-named sources according to "VitalVegas.com". The vitalvegas.com about page says "One of the most baffling things about us is we’re just one person, Scott Roeben". There's speculation elsewhere about a different house fire in Stratford. And I suspect many other house fires match the timeline.
        xoxoy 6y ago
        There’s other sources on Twitter that have linked the article. I looked at the Stratford case too. Doesn’t match. It was a 42 year old adult with 2 other adults and 2 teens. Hsieh is 46. https://patch.com/connecticut/stratford/man-severely-burned-after-explosion-stratford-garage https://patch.com/connecticut/stratford/man-severely-burned-... And if you look at original TheDay house it’s a waterfront mansion...clearly owned by someone wealthy along with matching the timeline.
    - astura 6y ago
      It is that fire - it was the only fire in New London on Nov. 18 with injuries. https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-tony-hsieh-zappos-dies-connecticut-house-fire-20201128-ovfgme4hgbfzpnwx43frdvui4m-story.html https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-tony-hsieh-zappo... >DTP Companies spokesperson Megan Fazio said in an email that Hsieh was injured in a Nov. 18 fire in New London. >New London Fire Chief Thomas Curcio told The Courant there was only one fire with injuries that day — at a home at 500 Pequot Ave. (Curcio declined to release the identity of the person injured in that fire.) >Curcio told The Courant that, at about 3:30 a.m. on Nov. 18, his department received a report that a fire had trapped someone in the home. All of New London’s fire vehicles responded to the scene, Curcio said, and pulled the person out of the home
      - tyingq 6y ago
        Yep, a story released well after my comment ties it to that city.
  - simias 6y ago
    I'm not sure what's unusual about this. Fires at night are dangerous because people sleep so they're more likely to be caught by surprise when the fire is already completely out of control. All it takes is an electrical spark, a candle they forgot to put out, a heater too close to some fabric and you got yourself a fire. Frankly this internet sleuthing is rather pointless and, in my opinion, in rather bad taste.
    - xoxoy 6y ago
      you’re assuming he was sleeping...nothing in the article says that he was asleep in his bedroom when this happened. it also doesn’t explain why the firefighters say he was “trapped in a portion of the house” and they had to “force entry”. implies there was some blockade within the house that prevented them from easily getting to him.
      - talentedcoin 6y ago
        No, it doesn't imply anything. What if you fall asleep in the basement? What if part of the house collapses and can't be accessed? Is that a "blockade"?
      - dkersten 6y ago
        If there was a fire elsewhere in my house while I was in my bedroom and I didn't notice (because I was sleeping or otherwise), its highly likely I'd be trapped too, depending on where the fire started. If fire is between me and an exit, then I'm trapped. While the article doesn't say he was sleeping, it also doesn't say he wasn't. You can't assume either way, but you seem to be assuming that because it doesn't say, it means he wasn't.
      - libraryatnight 6y ago
        stop. just stop speculating. you have the news article, that's it. you know nothing. this is not helpful, it's not interesting, you're not doing anything productive. this is wrong and it's sick.
  - mstade 6y ago
    Light a few candles at midnight; have a couple of glasses of wine; pass out on the couch watching reruns of Battlestar Galactica; candles burn down; candle holder catches fire; fire spreads to the curtains; full blown fire breaks out; wake up to a smoke filled room and start panicking; make it to an adjoining room and close the door; sit down on the floor trying to catch a breath; hyperventilating means more smoke inhalation; pass out; firemen arrive and door is blocked by man slumped on the floor inside, requiring forced entry... Neither 3:30am or any of the other details are automatically suspicious. This stuff happens, all the time, and there's no reason to suspect foul play until investigators say so.
dang 6y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25236310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25236310.

No. Better to let law enforcement & the family consider that then speculate on an internet forum without any substantial or additional information.

xoxoy 6y ago
there’s information from this article at the time of the fire: https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 https://www.theday.com/article/20201118/NWS04/201119437 the thing that stood out to me was that it happened at 3:30 in the morning. unless he was sleeping, which it doesn’t say he was, then the time of day is certainly unusual. it also says he was trapped in the home and they had to use force to get to him, which would imply he was locked somewhere in the home.
- tyingq 6y ago
  What about that article ties it to Hsieh? Other than being a recent house fire in Connecticut? It's certainly not the only one.
  - xoxoy 6y ago
    Because it matches the timeline and confirmed by multiple sources as him? https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1332560969747238912?s=21 https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1332560969747238912?s=...
    - tyingq 6y ago
      Multiple un-named sources according to "VitalVegas.com". The vitalvegas.com about page says "One of the most baffling things about us is we’re just one person, Scott Roeben". There's speculation elsewhere about a different house fire in Stratford. And I suspect many other house fires match the timeline.
      - xoxoy 6y ago
        There’s other sources on Twitter that have linked the article. I looked at the Stratford case too. Doesn’t match. It was a 42 year old adult with 2 other adults and 2 teens. Hsieh is 46. https://patch.com/connecticut/stratford/man-severely-burned-after-explosion-stratford-garage https://patch.com/connecticut/stratford/man-severely-burned-... And if you look at original TheDay house it’s a waterfront mansion...clearly owned by someone wealthy along with matching the timeline.
  - astura 6y ago
    It is that fire - it was the only fire in New London on Nov. 18 with injuries. https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-tony-hsieh-zappos-dies-connecticut-house-fire-20201128-ovfgme4hgbfzpnwx43frdvui4m-story.html https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-tony-hsieh-zappo... >DTP Companies spokesperson Megan Fazio said in an email that Hsieh was injured in a Nov. 18 fire in New London. >New London Fire Chief Thomas Curcio told The Courant there was only one fire with injuries that day — at a home at 500 Pequot Ave. (Curcio declined to release the identity of the person injured in that fire.) >Curcio told The Courant that, at about 3:30 a.m. on Nov. 18, his department received a report that a fire had trapped someone in the home. All of New London’s fire vehicles responded to the scene, Curcio said, and pulled the person out of the home
    - tyingq 6y ago
      Yep, a story released well after my comment ties it to that city.
- simias 6y ago
  I'm not sure what's unusual about this. Fires at night are dangerous because people sleep so they're more likely to be caught by surprise when the fire is already completely out of control. All it takes is an electrical spark, a candle they forgot to put out, a heater too close to some fabric and you got yourself a fire. Frankly this internet sleuthing is rather pointless and, in my opinion, in rather bad taste.
  - xoxoy 6y ago
    you’re assuming he was sleeping...nothing in the article says that he was asleep in his bedroom when this happened. it also doesn’t explain why the firefighters say he was “trapped in a portion of the house” and they had to “force entry”. implies there was some blockade within the house that prevented them from easily getting to him.
    - talentedcoin 6y ago
      No, it doesn't imply anything. What if you fall asleep in the basement? What if part of the house collapses and can't be accessed? Is that a "blockade"?
    - dkersten 6y ago
      If there was a fire elsewhere in my house while I was in my bedroom and I didn't notice (because I was sleeping or otherwise), its highly likely I'd be trapped too, depending on where the fire started. If fire is between me and an exit, then I'm trapped. While the article doesn't say he was sleeping, it also doesn't say he wasn't. You can't assume either way, but you seem to be assuming that because it doesn't say, it means he wasn't.
    - libraryatnight 6y ago
      stop. just stop speculating. you have the news article, that's it. you know nothing. this is not helpful, it's not interesting, you're not doing anything productive. this is wrong and it's sick.
- mstade 6y ago
  Light a few candles at midnight; have a couple of glasses of wine; pass out on the couch watching reruns of Battlestar Galactica; candles burn down; candle holder catches fire; fire spreads to the curtains; full blown fire breaks out; wake up to a smoke filled room and start panicking; make it to an adjoining room and close the door; sit down on the floor trying to catch a breath; hyperventilating means more smoke inhalation; pass out; firemen arrive and door is blocked by man slumped on the floor inside, requiring forced entry... Neither 3:30am or any of the other details are automatically suspicious. This stuff happens, all the time, and there's no reason to suspect foul play until investigators say so.

dang 6y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25236310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25236310.