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> What? Where can you drive a car without taking a driving test and getting a license? In the US, driving instruction is basic, and easy to pass and most peopl

> What? Where can you drive a car without taking a driving test and getting a license? In the US, driving instruction is basic, and easy to pass and most people have long forgotten it. Trying to suggest they are "Educated" is ridiculous. > 30lb going 20mph bikes are absolutely a threat to pedestrians. Absolute nonsense. The number of pedestrians injured each year by cyclists is tiny, likely zero most years. eBikes don't change this because fundamentally. Cyclists (acoustic or electric) are much more alert than car drivers because if you aren't alert on a bike you get smashed by someone in a car. Cyclists don't hit pedestrians out of self preservation. Hit a pedestrian and it's going to fucking hurt. People in cars hit pedestrians without even noticing.

mulmen 6y ago
The hurdle for driving is far beyond the hurdle for cycling. The hurdle for riding a motorcycle is even more difficult than driving a car. Yes, roads are dangerous. This is my point. 30lb bicycles weigh a lot more than 30lb when you put riders on them. The energies involved can and do injure people.
davidbanham 6y ago
> Absolute nonsense. The number of pedestrians injured each year by cyclists is tiny, likely zero most years. No. Here are some statistics from the UK in 2018 because they’re the first Google result. Cycling is wonderful and is a net benefit to communities. Trying to claim there are no injuries caused to pedestrians by cyclists is just silly. —————— Figures published by the Department for Transport (DfT) show that 531 people were involved in collisions with cyclists in 2017, up by 15 per cent in 12 months. The accident rate was higher than at any time since at least 2013 when the statistics were first published. More than 120 pedestrians were seriously hurt in collisions with bikes last year and three were killed, the figures show. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/calls-for-new-law-as-cyclists-injure-more-pedestrians-xtpmlxn6r https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/calls-for-new-law-as-cycl...

mulmen 6y ago

The hurdle for driving is far beyond the hurdle for cycling. The hurdle for riding a motorcycle is even more difficult than driving a car. Yes, roads are dangerous. This is my point. 30lb bicycles weigh a lot more than 30lb when you put riders on them. The energies involved can and do injure people.

davidbanham 6y ago

> Absolute nonsense. The number of pedestrians injured each year by cyclists is tiny, likely zero most years. No. Here are some statistics from the UK in 2018 because they’re the first Google result. Cycling is wonderful and is a net benefit to communities. Trying to claim there are no injuries caused to pedestrians by cyclists is just silly. —————— Figures published by the Department for Transport (DfT) show that 531 people were involved in collisions with cyclists in 2017, up by 15 per cent in 12 months. The accident rate was higher than at any time since at least 2013 when the statistics were first published. More than 120 pedestrians were seriously hurt in collisions with bikes last year and three were killed, the figures show. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/calls-for-new-law-as-cyclists-injure-more-pedestrians-xtpmlxn6r https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/calls-for-new-law-as-cycl...