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"the highest risk activity" seems somewhat hyperbolic. Eating at restaurants when tables are appropriately spaced and masks are worn when not actually eating is
by Dig1t 6y ago
"the highest risk activity" seems somewhat hyperbolic. Eating at restaurants when tables are appropriately spaced and masks are worn when not actually eating is not extremely dangerous.
- fauigerzigerk 6y agoAnother feature of the scheme was that they made people crowd together on just three days of the week. It was absolutely packed in some places and almost empty for the rest of the week.
- graeme 6y agoNo, restaurants are one of the highest risk places. Spacing doesn’t help so much indoors where aerosols accumulate, especially if ventilation is poor. We just had an outbreak in halifax and bars and restaurants have far and away been the driver. https://fortune.com/2020/06/26/is-it-safe-restaurant-coronavirus-cases-credit-cards-restaurants-jp-morgan-chase-covid-19-outbreaks/ https://fortune.com/2020/06/26/is-it-safe-restaurant-coronav...
- tremon 6y agobars and restaurants This is a hugely different from just "restaurants", for many reasons: - restaurants have wait staff, so the guests are much more stationary, whereas in bars every round requires a walking trip to the bar for at least one person per group. - restaurants have tables, and the guests are usually seated, whereas bars have much more people standing around and close together. - as a result, the people walking around in restaurants can be controlled and trained, since they are employees. In bars, the people walking around are guests. - restaurants are a quiet atmosphere, and people at the same tables can usually have an easy conversation. In most bars, there's music blaring at loud volume so people must lean in towards each other for every sentence. I don't see how you go from "bars and restaurants have far and away been the driver" to "restaurants are one of the highest risk places" with a straight face. Can you point to studies showing how these differences don't make a diffference?
- graeme 6y agoBars are at the very top of the list, but restaurants are also risky. You won’t find studies, to my knowledge no one has done any. Restaurants are not usually a quiet atmosphere, at least in north america. This loud volume gets people talking more loudly. Animated talking is common in restaurants: people go to socialize, not to quietly. Bars are worse, but lack of masks in restaurants make them much riskier than masked activities. What places would you estimate are riskier than restaurants? I’ll grant that bars are #1, but restaurants havw got to be #5 or so. (I’m assuming also that high risk things like choirs are shut down. If not then that changes assumptions a bit) https://ny.eater.com/2018/6/6/17429648/steve-cuozzo-noisy-restaurants-nyc https://ny.eater.com/2018/6/6/17429648/steve-cuozzo-noisy-re...
- te_chris 6y agoYou don’t have to wear masks while seated in the UK
- bluescrn 6y agoIt’s a puritanical virus that only attacks people partaking in leisure activities. Apparently it leaves schools and workplaces alone...
- bovine3dom 6y agoThere's quite a lot of disagreement about this [1] but it does seem that in general long distance travel is worse. [1] https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/11/28/why-europes-second-less-severe-lockdowns-are-working https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/11/28/why-euro... (paywalled, key graphic is this: https://i.imgur.com/JpmZtPk.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/JpmZtPk.jpeg )