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those are pretty wild claims. any way you can back it up?

smabie 6y ago
Why do you ask this question? You know he doesn't. But that doesn't mean it is false. If his username is anything to go by, I'd say that there is probably a kernel of truth to his statement. After all, people don't just make up stories about ketamine and nitrous addictions. Especially since dying in a house fire isn't a usual route to go. It might make sense he was on ketamine and somehow a fire started (he probably didn't intentionally start a fire), and couldn't get out. It's very hard to walk straight on ketamine. You end up walking like a robot. Edit: but the real reason I believe these claims is because my gut says it is true. Not the best reason, of course. But not a bad reason either.
- qznc 6y ago
  Sometimes people do make up stories about ketamine and nitrous addictions. This has been very disastrous for people accused of rape or witchcraft. This is why i don't like "where there is smoke, there is fire."
  - onemiketwelve 6y ago
    welp, looks like there was a raging wildfire after all
- ponker 6y ago
  Lolwut. Please. This kind of boundless credulity, which is unfortunately quite widespread, has sent innocent people to their executions. You are ascribing a "kernel of truth" to a completely unsubstantiated claim because the comment includes specific details and because of the username of the poster, which they themselves chose and did not have to justify. There is absolutely no evidence that the claim by "exzappos" is true or false. Please don't imply anything else. > the real reason I believe these claims is because my gut says it is true. Not the best reason, of course. But not a bad reason either. Yes, a bad reason. A very bad reason.
- Goodlead 6y ago
  It is true. A bunch of his close associates tried to have an intervention lol. He blacklisted them all and quite as CEO of zappos. He packed up and left Vegas for Park City, only invited the most simpiest of simps who wouldn't question him. Candle obsession + nitro tank = fire. But first hand accounts say it wasnt fire or smoke that killed him. Too much nitrous not enough oxygen for the brain.
therealx 6y ago
Best I can do is this personal story: I, for reasons unimportant to the topic, knew personally people from all walks of Tony's life. I've would have a drink with his personal cleaning lady when she was done for theday, and drank more than one with Tony himself late into the night at Kareoke in his personal Airstream park. Many of my friends worked in all departments at Zappos, as well. When the drinks were mostly finished, and the clock was past 3am, the #1 rumor would be of his drug use. At first I thought it was standard rumors due to his laid back nature and stature (and maybe confated with the fact that he smoked weed legally.) However, after an interpersonal issue, one of the people with access to his private life pulled me aside and showed me a series of photos he had taken in Tony's place prior to anyone cleaning it up. Let's just say Ketamine and Nitrous are weak comparitively to what I saw, and there was a reason he could be "on it" for 3/4 of a day and then immediatly sleep. I don't know how to say it without speaking too ill of the dead, but I think you get the idea. PPS, Google the Downtown Vegas Suicides for a true, fun, short read.
- Goodlead 6y ago
  This is true, I don't have all the facts, but tony was obsessed with candles lately. First hand account says candles + nitrous tank caused the "fire" but it's more likely that he went too hard on the nitrous and was brain starved of oxygen, was on life support for many days braindead before his body went.
  - Goodlead 6y ago
    That being said, Tony was a great guy, and did so much for countless people. Myself included. He will be missed. His community of clingers and simps though... they are in finger pointing mode and eating themselves alive.
    - therealx 6y ago
      It's crazy people don't want to hear that this could possibly be true. HMU on my email - we might know each other :)
fragmede 6y ago
Jewel is pretty credible and mentions nitrous oxide by name. https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-his-death/ https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-hi...
TedShiller 6y ago
Yes: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-a-spiral-of-alcohol-drugs-and-extreme-behavior-11607264719 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-...

Why do you ask this question? You know he doesn't. But that doesn't mean it is false. If his username is anything to go by, I'd say that there is probably a kernel of truth to his statement. After all, people don't just make up stories about ketamine and nitrous addictions. Especially since dying in a house fire isn't a usual route to go. It might make sense he was on ketamine and somehow a fire started (he probably didn't intentionally start a fire), and couldn't get out. It's very hard to walk straight on ketamine. You end up walking like a robot. Edit: but the real reason I believe these claims is because my gut says it is true. Not the best reason, of course. But not a bad reason either.

qznc 6y ago
Sometimes people do make up stories about ketamine and nitrous addictions. This has been very disastrous for people accused of rape or witchcraft. This is why i don't like "where there is smoke, there is fire."
- onemiketwelve 6y ago
  welp, looks like there was a raging wildfire after all
ponker 6y ago
Lolwut. Please. This kind of boundless credulity, which is unfortunately quite widespread, has sent innocent people to their executions. You are ascribing a "kernel of truth" to a completely unsubstantiated claim because the comment includes specific details and because of the username of the poster, which they themselves chose and did not have to justify. There is absolutely no evidence that the claim by "exzappos" is true or false. Please don't imply anything else. > the real reason I believe these claims is because my gut says it is true. Not the best reason, of course. But not a bad reason either. Yes, a bad reason. A very bad reason.
Goodlead 6y ago
It is true. A bunch of his close associates tried to have an intervention lol. He blacklisted them all and quite as CEO of zappos. He packed up and left Vegas for Park City, only invited the most simpiest of simps who wouldn't question him. Candle obsession + nitro tank = fire. But first hand accounts say it wasnt fire or smoke that killed him. Too much nitrous not enough oxygen for the brain.

therealx 6y ago

Best I can do is this personal story: I, for reasons unimportant to the topic, knew personally people from all walks of Tony's life. I've would have a drink with his personal cleaning lady when she was done for theday, and drank more than one with Tony himself late into the night at Kareoke in his personal Airstream park. Many of my friends worked in all departments at Zappos, as well. When the drinks were mostly finished, and the clock was past 3am, the #1 rumor would be of his drug use. At first I thought it was standard rumors due to his laid back nature and stature (and maybe confated with the fact that he smoked weed legally.) However, after an interpersonal issue, one of the people with access to his private life pulled me aside and showed me a series of photos he had taken in Tony's place prior to anyone cleaning it up. Let's just say Ketamine and Nitrous are weak comparitively to what I saw, and there was a reason he could be "on it" for 3/4 of a day and then immediatly sleep. I don't know how to say it without speaking too ill of the dead, but I think you get the idea. PPS, Google the Downtown Vegas Suicides for a true, fun, short read.

Goodlead 6y ago
This is true, I don't have all the facts, but tony was obsessed with candles lately. First hand account says candles + nitrous tank caused the "fire" but it's more likely that he went too hard on the nitrous and was brain starved of oxygen, was on life support for many days braindead before his body went.
- Goodlead 6y ago
  That being said, Tony was a great guy, and did so much for countless people. Myself included. He will be missed. His community of clingers and simps though... they are in finger pointing mode and eating themselves alive.
  - therealx 6y ago
    It's crazy people don't want to hear that this could possibly be true. HMU on my email - we might know each other :)

fragmede 6y ago

Jewel is pretty credible and mentions nitrous oxide by name. https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-his-death/ https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-hi...

TedShiller 6y ago

Yes: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-a-spiral-of-alcohol-drugs-and-extreme-behavior-11607264719 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-...