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This is a larger ArchiveTeam problem, not a language problem. They use MediaWiki (Wikipedia) to effectively host static informational pages without a cache in f

by mike_d 6y ago

This is a larger ArchiveTeam problem, not a language problem. They use MediaWiki (Wikipedia) to effectively host static informational pages without a cache in front.

thunderrabbit 6y ago
From the cached version: > Hosting is provided gratis thanks to the kind folks at Tranquil Hosting
- mike_d 6y ago
  I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? If AWS gives $10,000 in cloud credits to a startup and their product goes down, it is AWS' fault?
yashap 6y ago
Indeed. I hate PHP as much as the next dev, but Varnish and the like have been around for ages, and are easy to setup and operate. Dead simple, affordable solution for an essentially static site like this.
bawolff 6y ago
Tbf, the expected audience is small, its not like they are trying to sell something so its critical to stay up through some spike. The architecture is totally fine for their use case. Arcitecturing it to stand up to hn hug of death would be over-engineering and not really make sense given their goals.
jrwr 6y ago
As the main sysadmin for the archive team's web frontend (this one happens to be hosted outside of my control) Yes, its mediawiki, no we cannot use fancy cache, JScott has a special deal with the web hoster that makes the hosting damn near bullet proof. on top of that, the overall group is anti-cloudflare. so we are kinda stuck with what Ive been able to meek out of a cpanel shared hosting plan.
- pabs3 6y ago
  There are a a number of open source friendly hosters that could probably host it for free. These ones come to mind: https://osuosl.org/ https://osuosl.org/ https://www.fosshost.org/ https://www.fosshost.org/ http://www.gplhost.com/ http://www.gplhost.com/ https://www.digitalocean.com/open-source/ https://www.digitalocean.com/open-source/ https://www.gandi.net/en/gandi-supports https://www.gandi.net/en/gandi-supports
  - jrwr 6y ago
    Oh it doesn't work like that. I direct you to the time he got sued for 1 billion dollars. These are "crackpots" that love to threaten our services. He gets crazy as shit takedown notices about once a week. that he promptly ignores
- mike_d 6y ago
  Send me an email (in my profile), I'll give you guys a server and capacity on my CDN.
  - jrwr 6y ago
    Oh it doesn't work like that. I direct you to the time he got sued for 1 billion dollars. These are "crackpots" that love to threaten our services. He gets crazy as shit takedown notices about once a week. that he promptly ignores

by mike_d 6y ago

This is a larger ArchiveTeam problem, not a language problem. They use MediaWiki (Wikipedia) to effectively host static informational pages without a cache in front.

thunderrabbit 6y ago

From the cached version: > Hosting is provided gratis thanks to the kind folks at Tranquil Hosting

mike_d 6y ago
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? If AWS gives $10,000 in cloud credits to a startup and their product goes down, it is AWS' fault?

yashap 6y ago

Indeed. I hate PHP as much as the next dev, but Varnish and the like have been around for ages, and are easy to setup and operate. Dead simple, affordable solution for an essentially static site like this.

bawolff 6y ago

Tbf, the expected audience is small, its not like they are trying to sell something so its critical to stay up through some spike. The architecture is totally fine for their use case. Arcitecturing it to stand up to hn hug of death would be over-engineering and not really make sense given their goals.

jrwr 6y ago

As the main sysadmin for the archive team's web frontend (this one happens to be hosted outside of my control) Yes, its mediawiki, no we cannot use fancy cache, JScott has a special deal with the web hoster that makes the hosting damn near bullet proof. on top of that, the overall group is anti-cloudflare. so we are kinda stuck with what Ive been able to meek out of a cpanel shared hosting plan.

pabs3 6y ago
There are a a number of open source friendly hosters that could probably host it for free. These ones come to mind: https://osuosl.org/ https://osuosl.org/ https://www.fosshost.org/ https://www.fosshost.org/ http://www.gplhost.com/ http://www.gplhost.com/ https://www.digitalocean.com/open-source/ https://www.digitalocean.com/open-source/ https://www.gandi.net/en/gandi-supports https://www.gandi.net/en/gandi-supports
- jrwr 6y ago
  Oh it doesn't work like that. I direct you to the time he got sued for 1 billion dollars. These are "crackpots" that love to threaten our services. He gets crazy as shit takedown notices about once a week. that he promptly ignores
mike_d 6y ago
Send me an email (in my profile), I'll give you guys a server and capacity on my CDN.
- jrwr 6y ago
  Oh it doesn't work like that. I direct you to the time he got sued for 1 billion dollars. These are "crackpots" that love to threaten our services. He gets crazy as shit takedown notices about once a week. that he promptly ignores