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> You're arguing against a straw man here. [...] There's nothing even like that. And you are arguing in bad faith; there are several parts of the article that
by ygjb 6y ago
> You're arguing against a straw man here. [...] There's nothing even like that.
And you are arguing in bad faith; there are several parts of the article that detail exactly what you are looing for.
In the second paragraph, the article indicates that 11 of the folks who left notified HR or their managers.
In the third paragraph one of the named victims states she made several reports.
In the sixth paragraph 5 on the record employees and 18 off the record employees, and internal documents and recordings are claimed as evidence.
Despite this, Coinbase only reports three official complaints in the year many of these folks left.
Coupled with the stream of hot garbage that Brian Armstrong has proposed trying to position as being "Mission Focused", in the middle of a pandemic, massive, ongoing riots, and political instability just illustrates how utterly tone deaf the leadership at Coinbase is.
> Susan Fowler blew up Uber with a single blog post.
Yes, you correct. You also have to look at the facts; Susan is an excellent writer, and based on her book, she already had some measure of experience speaking truth to power. Coupled with the fact that she was already recognized as a talented engineer and a published author, it's not surprising her blog post was as well received as it was.
Susan also wrote about her experience with her own voice and had receipts to show how bad it was. I certainly don't want to down play the issues that women in tech face, but it's also well known that people of color frequently have different social and economic circumstances than white or white-presenting folks (and it's not me saying this -- she calls out in her book the casual anti-semitism she faced from folks who didn't know she is Jewish).
- treis 6y ago>And you are arguing in bad faith; there are several parts of the article that detail exactly what you are looing for. Everything you list is an accusation. What I am looking for is: (1) Person X said this racist thing happened. (2) The event in (1) is (a) true, and (b) backed up by a corroborating witness, this email, some document, etc >You also have to look at the facts; Susan is an excellent writer, and based on her book, she already had some measure of experience speaking truth to power. If the NY Times doesn't have reporters that can do that then they should fire the ones they have and find some that can.
- joshuamorton 6y agoSo you're looking for a smoking gun level of proof? The unfortunate thing is that life usually isn't that easy. When smart people do bad things they generally don't leave a paper trail.
- ygjb 6y agoMeh. You are moving goal posts, and you are making baseless claims against an experienced reporter who is well connected in the Bay Area for a major newspaper. You are offhandedly discounting the reported experience of more than 20 people, many of whom have come forward with evidence.
- honkdaddy 6y agoPersonally, I think what he's asking for is entirely reasonable, and I was also disappointed to see a lack of hard evidence in the hit-piece.
- treis 6y ago>You are moving goal posts, and you are making baseless claims against an experienced reporter who is well connected in the Bay Area for a major newspap You did that! You said Susan Fowler was effective because she was able to speak truth to power. Implying that this article is ineffective because the writer doesn't know how to speak truth to power. >You are offhandedly discounting the reported experience of more than 20 people, many of whom have come forward with evidence. No I didn't. I said I tend to believe them.