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This is how employers see the world: - giving a shit doesn't matter - creativity doesn't matter - how hard you work doesn't matter - self educating doesn't

This is how employers see the world: - giving a shit doesn't matter - creativity doesn't matter - how hard you work doesn't matter - self educating doesn't matter - energy and enthusiasm don't matter - having built stuff on your own doesn't matter What matters: - can you implement bubble sort? - can you implement a red/black tree? - can you do this coding test? Look, employees don't need to be obsessed workaholics, but being really interested in your job and motivated and willing to do great work matters, and employers, for the most part, ignore these factors and focus on technical skills. And worse, in many cases their technical assessments are misguided anyway and don't really give insight into how good someone is as a software developer.

chrisabrams 6y ago
You forgot culture fit under “what matters” /s
- andrewstuart 6y ago
  No, "culture fit" is the excuse used to reject people without reason, and it how companies ensure they don't employ people with different accents. "culture fit" is the synonym for "same as us".
  - dvtrn 6y ago
    Culture add is better than culture fit anyway. what can this person add to the character of our team that we don't already have? Insight from a completely different career field in their past? Dry humor? Brilliantly timed Star Trek quotes? I've found advising my subordinate leaders to look for culture adds instead of fits takes a lot off their backs when interviewing for things other than checking off the list of familiar technologies.
oriolid 6y ago
Creativity is reserved to founders and designers, they don't like competition. If you give a shit, you're going to quit over artistic differences. Working hard usually does more damage than working smarter. And finally, we wouldn't need coding tests if there was a reasonable standard for bare minimum programming skills.
- the_only_law 6y ago
  > Creativity is reserved to founders and designers Sadly for some of us, our creativity never manifests in a profitable way. If I had an idea worth anything and I found as engaging as most of my side projects, I’d probably try the founder route.

chrisabrams 6y ago

You forgot culture fit under “what matters” /s

andrewstuart 6y ago
No, "culture fit" is the excuse used to reject people without reason, and it how companies ensure they don't employ people with different accents. "culture fit" is the synonym for "same as us".
- dvtrn 6y ago
  Culture add is better than culture fit anyway. what can this person add to the character of our team that we don't already have? Insight from a completely different career field in their past? Dry humor? Brilliantly timed Star Trek quotes? I've found advising my subordinate leaders to look for culture adds instead of fits takes a lot off their backs when interviewing for things other than checking off the list of familiar technologies.

oriolid 6y ago

Creativity is reserved to founders and designers, they don't like competition. If you give a shit, you're going to quit over artistic differences. Working hard usually does more damage than working smarter. And finally, we wouldn't need coding tests if there was a reasonable standard for bare minimum programming skills.

the_only_law 6y ago
> Creativity is reserved to founders and designers Sadly for some of us, our creativity never manifests in a profitable way. If I had an idea worth anything and I found as engaging as most of my side projects, I’d probably try the founder route.