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yeah, I know. And the ETH graduates are probably top-quality. But the parent poster said that he didn't experience cutting edge technology in switzerland and I

yeah, I know. And the ETH graduates are probably top-quality. But the parent poster said that he didn't experience cutting edge technology in switzerland and I wondered whether it's the same in Zurich. In germany, I've experience that you can excel at one technical property (usually your core product, manufacturing something, designing some material) while also being very conservative in virtually every other dimension. It's different in startups, but I wonder about zurich in general. So I think that both is possible, moving very slow and being very conservative, while on the other hand excelling at one particular thing (where you would need the high-quality ETH graduates). It's usually that IT is not the main focus here (in germany), so you can end up in slowly moving, very conservative, magnitudes behind cutting edge organisation. The swiss are not really known for a silicon-valley kind of attitude. I think it's a mindset and a lot of companies only see IT as cost instead of investment, much less as a driver of innovation. That's why I'm asking.

Rochus 6y ago
> he didn't experience cutting edge technology in switzerland What ever that is supposed to mean; maybe after looking a couple of days with a very narrow focus. > The swiss are not really known for a silicon-valley kind of attitude Well, there is no "hire and fire", and there are no garages and cellars that are worth a billion dollars overnight. But there were and still are a lot of innovations in various fields. Also Germany has great engineers and a lot of innovation, but the state weighs much heavier on the companies than in Switzerland. EDIT: Perhaps the Global Inovation Index would also be worth a look: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Innovation_Index https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Innovation_Index
- Rochus 6y ago
  For the sceptics: do you really think, companies like Roche, Novartis, ABB, Schindler, Logitech, Sonova, Ypsomed, and others don't use or develop cutting edge technology? As you can see Switzerland is on the top of the Global Inovation Index (and no, this index is not issued by Swiss organizations).

Rochus 6y ago

> he didn't experience cutting edge technology in switzerland What ever that is supposed to mean; maybe after looking a couple of days with a very narrow focus. > The swiss are not really known for a silicon-valley kind of attitude Well, there is no "hire and fire", and there are no garages and cellars that are worth a billion dollars overnight. But there were and still are a lot of innovations in various fields. Also Germany has great engineers and a lot of innovation, but the state weighs much heavier on the companies than in Switzerland. EDIT: Perhaps the Global Inovation Index would also be worth a look: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Innovation_Index https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Innovation_Index

Rochus 6y ago
For the sceptics: do you really think, companies like Roche, Novartis, ABB, Schindler, Logitech, Sonova, Ypsomed, and others don't use or develop cutting edge technology? As you can see Switzerland is on the top of the Global Inovation Index (and no, this index is not issued by Swiss organizations).