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Can you expand on what you mean by "far left politics"? Reminder, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. It was before this year's round of Black Lives Ma

by slg 6y ago

Can you expand on what you mean by "far left politics"? Reminder, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. It was before this year's round of Black Lives Matter protests. It was also before Coinbase issued its no politics edict. I am really struggling to think of what "far left politics" you are referring to here that would be important enough to the Black employees of Coinbase that it results in 75% of them leaving.

ergocoder 6y ago
Far left politics is an extremist. For example, if you criticize BLM for looting, you will be labeled racists. Looting small shop owners makes no sense. Many shop owners are even black. This happened in Seattle where many shop owners support BLM. You might say, well, that was an exception. But Noah Trevor (an influential person) also justified looting because police breaks social contract first. Now why would you loot random shops because of that? The fact that Noah hasn't been canceled makes me think a lot of BLM supporters see looting as positive. To sum up, you basically can't say anything bad about BLM. Otherwise, you would be labeled as racists and canceled. This is a trend in the far-left politics. They would force you to personally sacrifice to better society. Another example is homeless people camping in front of your shop. If you try to make them go away, you will also be canceled. This far-left politics is just evil, IMO.
- slg 6y ago
  To repeat myself, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. That was before the round of protests that you are speaking about. What far left political issue was Coinbase potentially fighting against during the relevant time window that would have pushed these employees out? Also I think you mean Trevor Noah and not Noah Trevor.
- cbthrow91 6y ago
  @slg: I believe CB has internally discouraged politics in the workplace not related to the mission since before 2020
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- aparsons 6y ago
  Here’s the catcher though: these people never personally sacrifice themselves, and a good number of them are quite biased themselves.
treis 6y ago
Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support. Coinbase's position is that while they support those things they want to focus on their cryptocurrency mission. Given that, the expected outcome would be 0 Black people working at Coinbase. If you were black, you'd much rather work for the firms actively trying to recruit and promote you.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  > Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support. Really? "Most other tech firms" do this?
  - Veelox 6y ago
    I mean you have articles like these https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24/tech-started-publicly-taking-lack-of-diversity-seriously-in-2014-why-has-so-little-changed-for-black-workers https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24... being written.
    - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
      > Baltimore said that he’s glad more people are talking about the problem, but that what’s really needed is “boots on the ground”: consistent money, time and leadership dedicated to actively bringing more Black tech professionals and investors into the industry. That doesn't sound like "most companies" in the tech industry actively seeking and hiring minorities. Perhaps they do and articles like these are deceptive?
      - Veelox 6y ago
        Google does https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/google-promises-several-changes-improve-racial-diversity-across-the-company-2020-6%3famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/google-... Apple does "For the past five years, we’ve continued to hire more women and underrepresented minorities every year." https://www.apple.com/diversity/ https://www.apple.com/diversity/ Facebook does "We’re committed to building a workforce that’s as diverse as the communities we serve" https://www.facebook.com/careers/facebook-life/diversity https://www.facebook.com/careers/facebook-life/diversity I would look up others but I think those three make the point. Companies are actively hiring underrepresented minorities. Yes some people think more effort should be put in but to say it isn't happening is being ignorant of reality.

by slg 6y ago

ergocoder 6y ago

Far left politics is an extremist. For example, if you criticize BLM for looting, you will be labeled racists. Looting small shop owners makes no sense. Many shop owners are even black. This happened in Seattle where many shop owners support BLM. You might say, well, that was an exception. But Noah Trevor (an influential person) also justified looting because police breaks social contract first. Now why would you loot random shops because of that? The fact that Noah hasn't been canceled makes me think a lot of BLM supporters see looting as positive. To sum up, you basically can't say anything bad about BLM. Otherwise, you would be labeled as racists and canceled. This is a trend in the far-left politics. They would force you to personally sacrifice to better society. Another example is homeless people camping in front of your shop. If you try to make them go away, you will also be canceled. This far-left politics is just evil, IMO.

slg 6y ago
To repeat myself, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. That was before the round of protests that you are speaking about. What far left political issue was Coinbase potentially fighting against during the relevant time window that would have pushed these employees out? Also I think you mean Trevor Noah and not Noah Trevor.
cbthrow91 6y ago
@slg: I believe CB has internally discouraged politics in the workplace not related to the mission since before 2020
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aparsons 6y ago
Here’s the catcher though: these people never personally sacrifice themselves, and a good number of them are quite biased themselves.

treis 6y ago

Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support. Coinbase's position is that while they support those things they want to focus on their cryptocurrency mission. Given that, the expected outcome would be 0 Black people working at Coinbase. If you were black, you'd much rather work for the firms actively trying to recruit and promote you.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
> Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support. Really? "Most other tech firms" do this?
- Veelox 6y ago
  I mean you have articles like these https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24/tech-started-publicly-taking-lack-of-diversity-seriously-in-2014-why-has-so-little-changed-for-black-workers https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24... being written.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    > Baltimore said that he’s glad more people are talking about the problem, but that what’s really needed is “boots on the ground”: consistent money, time and leadership dedicated to actively bringing more Black tech professionals and investors into the industry. That doesn't sound like "most companies" in the tech industry actively seeking and hiring minorities. Perhaps they do and articles like these are deceptive?
    - Veelox 6y ago
      Google does https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/google-promises-several-changes-improve-racial-diversity-across-the-company-2020-6%3famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/google-... Apple does "For the past five years, we’ve continued to hire more women and underrepresented minorities every year." https://www.apple.com/diversity/ https://www.apple.com/diversity/ Facebook does "We’re committed to building a workforce that’s as diverse as the communities we serve" https://www.facebook.com/careers/facebook-life/diversity https://www.facebook.com/careers/facebook-life/diversity I would look up others but I think those three make the point. Companies are actively hiring underrepresented minorities. Yes some people think more effort should be put in but to say it isn't happening is being ignorant of reality.