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Well if Israel did it, it was almost assuredly in consultation with the Pentagon. I'm not sure how much credence to put in these ideas, but given Trump is stil

Well if Israel did it, it was almost assuredly in consultation with the Pentagon. I'm not sure how much credence to put in these ideas, but given Trump is still attempting a coup, some say that given his legal strategy is failing, he might try to start a military situation with Iran to create a crisis and make him a wartime president.

throwaway894345 6y ago
> Trump is still attempting a coup Trump has been a sore loser in this election, but to my knowledge he's only pursued legal avenues to overturn the election results. He also stated that he would leave office if the electoral college voted him out, even if he won't acknowledge that he lost the election. This is bad, tasteless behavior, but not a coup in any sense of the term.
- BrianOnHN 6y ago
  How do you explain this? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332352538855747584 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13323525388557475...
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  - jcfrei 6y ago
    Never take Trump's words at face value - even as president.
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    I read it as misinformation--i.e., the legal onus is on Biden to prove that his 80M votes weren't fraudulent; not that Trump would use the military to prevent Biden from taking office. In fact, I had to re-read it several times to even determine what coup-like meaning you were suggesting it contained.
    - jassany 6y ago
      This could be seen as setting the stage for something worse down the line... Come the week before inauguration day, and Biden still hasn't "proven" (whatever proven means to Trump anyway) the 80M votes... what will Trump do? refuse to leave because his stipulation wasn't met?
      - throwaway894345 6y ago
        Right, I now see that this Tweet could be interpreted as a veiled threat; I just think it's far more likely that Trump misunderstands (or is lying about) the law. Especially given his recent remarks that he would leave if the electoral college votes for Biden.
- jorblumesea 6y ago
  Inviting Michigan lawmakers to the white house to discuss "voter fraud", directly calling Michigan electoral polling officials, firing defense officials and installing super loyalists to positions of power, firing officials who oversaw the election that don't tow his official stance of a "rigged election" (Krebs). Refusal to acknowledge the win of an opponent, instead spreading disinformation and outright lies. Getting into fights with the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (a republican) to try to force him not to certify the results of the election. Talking about trying to use the state legislatures to override the results of the election itself. This is pretty sketchy stuff and is very much in line with a coup. While not necessarily "troops in the street" coup it's very important not to underplay this. He's using as much soft power as possible to undermine the results of the election and to influence it in his favor.
- Moodles 6y ago
  Every sentence you wrote is true, and you're only bringing up politics to respond to someone else who did, yet you're the one who's receiving downvotes.
zucker42 6y ago
> Well if Israel did it, it was almost assuredly in consultation with the Pentagon. What makes you say that? I would think Israel intelligence often operates independently from the U.S.

throwaway894345 6y ago

> Trump is still attempting a coup Trump has been a sore loser in this election, but to my knowledge he's only pursued legal avenues to overturn the election results. He also stated that he would leave office if the electoral college voted him out, even if he won't acknowledge that he lost the election. This is bad, tasteless behavior, but not a coup in any sense of the term.

BrianOnHN 6y ago
How do you explain this? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332352538855747584 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13323525388557475...
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- jcfrei 6y ago
  Never take Trump's words at face value - even as president.
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  I read it as misinformation--i.e., the legal onus is on Biden to prove that his 80M votes weren't fraudulent; not that Trump would use the military to prevent Biden from taking office. In fact, I had to re-read it several times to even determine what coup-like meaning you were suggesting it contained.
  - jassany 6y ago
    This could be seen as setting the stage for something worse down the line... Come the week before inauguration day, and Biden still hasn't "proven" (whatever proven means to Trump anyway) the 80M votes... what will Trump do? refuse to leave because his stipulation wasn't met?
    - throwaway894345 6y ago
      Right, I now see that this Tweet could be interpreted as a veiled threat; I just think it's far more likely that Trump misunderstands (or is lying about) the law. Especially given his recent remarks that he would leave if the electoral college votes for Biden.
jorblumesea 6y ago
Inviting Michigan lawmakers to the white house to discuss "voter fraud", directly calling Michigan electoral polling officials, firing defense officials and installing super loyalists to positions of power, firing officials who oversaw the election that don't tow his official stance of a "rigged election" (Krebs). Refusal to acknowledge the win of an opponent, instead spreading disinformation and outright lies. Getting into fights with the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (a republican) to try to force him not to certify the results of the election. Talking about trying to use the state legislatures to override the results of the election itself. This is pretty sketchy stuff and is very much in line with a coup. While not necessarily "troops in the street" coup it's very important not to underplay this. He's using as much soft power as possible to undermine the results of the election and to influence it in his favor.
Moodles 6y ago
Every sentence you wrote is true, and you're only bringing up politics to respond to someone else who did, yet you're the one who's receiving downvotes.

zucker42 6y ago

> Well if Israel did it, it was almost assuredly in consultation with the Pentagon. What makes you say that? I would think Israel intelligence often operates independently from the U.S.