I agree completely. And sometimes it is not easy to accomplish, even when you are not trying to implement dark patterns. I've had to work hard to get rid of "

I agree completely. And sometimes it is not easy to accomplish, even when you are not trying to implement dark patterns. I've had to work hard to get rid of "the jumpies" in my UI, and it still happens a little bit. I do find it frustrating, however, and I hope to eliminate them completely.