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At least the spying is removed by not connecting it to the internet, though I still get the great full OS experience :/ I have a smart TV not connected to the

At least the spying is removed by not connecting it to the internet, though I still get the great full OS experience :/ I have a smart TV not connected to the internet, just a HDMI connection to another box. Then I learned that IP-over-HDMI is a thing! In the very near future this will be even more futile - the TV will have it’s own built-in cellular connection just for telemetry. Anyone who objects will be shouted down as a 5G conspiracy nut, but this is exactly what 5G is designed for.

mtsr 6y ago
That’s horrible, I hadn’t even looked at it like that. But it will actually work better with 3/4G because 5Gs range is so short and it would be easy to block with just a little tinfoil.
- Foivos 6y ago
  5G has a lot of bands. Most of them are close to the 3G/4G bands, so it should have the same signal as 3G/4G. Also, new IoT technologies use techniques allowing them to operate at a much weaker signal. But you can always just destroy the antenna.
realityking 6y ago
> Then I learned that IP-over-HDMI is a thing! While it’s in the spec, I’m not aware of a single piece of consumer electronics that actually support it. The standard is an utter failure. In HDMI 2.1 the wires previously used for Ethernet-over-HDMI are now used for eARC making these two features mutually exclusive.
- therealx 6y ago
  I believe some higher end residential automation automation software support it?
ranma42 6y ago
Anecdotally, the first Sony smart tv my grandma got (after her old tube TV died) managed to receive a firmware upgrade over the antenna cable (don't remember if it was cable TV or satellite). She certainly didn't have any internet in her home. Of course that led to a fun episode of "My TV is broken" (actually just showing a prompt to start the firmware upgrade), in general she got very confused by the smart TVs UI often...

mtsr 6y ago

That’s horrible, I hadn’t even looked at it like that. But it will actually work better with 3/4G because 5Gs range is so short and it would be easy to block with just a little tinfoil.

Foivos 6y ago
5G has a lot of bands. Most of them are close to the 3G/4G bands, so it should have the same signal as 3G/4G. Also, new IoT technologies use techniques allowing them to operate at a much weaker signal. But you can always just destroy the antenna.

realityking 6y ago

> Then I learned that IP-over-HDMI is a thing! While it’s in the spec, I’m not aware of a single piece of consumer electronics that actually support it. The standard is an utter failure. In HDMI 2.1 the wires previously used for Ethernet-over-HDMI are now used for eARC making these two features mutually exclusive.

therealx 6y ago
I believe some higher end residential automation automation software support it?

ranma42 6y ago

Anecdotally, the first Sony smart tv my grandma got (after her old tube TV died) managed to receive a firmware upgrade over the antenna cable (don't remember if it was cable TV or satellite). She certainly didn't have any internet in her home. Of course that led to a fun episode of "My TV is broken" (actually just showing a prompt to start the firmware upgrade), in general she got very confused by the smart TVs UI often...