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Remote school is leaving children sad and angry

13 points by dsr12 6y ago

sandworm101 6y ago
And what is so different from in-person school? For every kid who is stressed and unhappy that they arent in a classroom full of kids there is probably one who doesnt miss the physical bullying and general humiliation that is so much a norm of modern schooling. The parents are certainly unhappy that the kids are home all day, but i bet the kids are rather neutral about it on average.
- hackeraccount 6y ago
  I have a kid and what you're describing doesn't fit what I'm seeing. Don't get me wrong; my kid isn't exceptionally gung-ho about learning but there's a social element to school that is very appealing. Heck I'm working remote and I see it in myself. And as an aside I think that social side is the best part of school. A large measure of what my daughter has learned isn't as I've said any love of knowledge in the abstract sense but because that's what the kids she's friends with do and she relates to them and wants to continue to relate to them.
logicalmonster 6y ago
It’s impossible for any politician to express this sentiment publicly, but I don’t think society has really recognized the extreme price that was paid to keep a relatively small handful of (largely) old people alive for maybe another couple of years. The economic destruction will impact us and our ability to solve bigger world problems for many years. The lives lost through suicides, drug overdoses, and other problems won’t be fully understood for years. The damage to a young generation’s education and mental health might not ever be fully understood, but it could be massive.
- loopz 6y ago
  Or maybe this might enable some empathy?
- jjaredsimpson 6y ago
  This isn't an original thought. The president said this out loud. It certainly isn't brave to do life value accounting.
DoreenMichele 6y ago
There's repeated references throughout the piece to children missing physical activities and favorite foods or favorite places to eat: Her eyes begin burning around then, too. She takes every one of the “stretch breaks” her school offers, but what she would really like to do is run out to the playground for a game of tag. Piper misses her soccer team. Creedence misses the doughnut shop across the street, which recently shut down because of a lack of customers. She would head for the monkey bars, where she would race Sofia, just like before. If Luke could just go play football with his best friend after school, the way he used to, that might make him feel better. The above get framed like what they are missing is the social aspect, but lack of exercise and not eating right can cause somatopsychic side effects. I wonder how much of an unrecognized role that being more sedentary and experiencing significant dietary changes is playing here.
RickJWagner 6y ago
My youngest son attends junior high remotely. He says the first 5 minutes of every class is the same: The teacher bawling out students for not doing assignments. He says a lot of kids don't even bother to show up. My son's a good kid, he'd probably go to class even if his mother and I didn't stay on him. But we do. I'm pretty sure this is a form of 'privilege', being manufactured right now. Kids with strong parenting are at an advantage. Kids without are at a disadvantage.

13 points by dsr12 6y ago

And what is so different from in-person school? For every kid who is stressed and unhappy that they arent in a classroom full of kids there is probably one who doesnt miss the physical bullying and general humiliation that is so much a norm of modern schooling. The parents are certainly unhappy that the kids are home all day, but i bet the kids are rather neutral about it on average.

hackeraccount 6y ago
I have a kid and what you're describing doesn't fit what I'm seeing. Don't get me wrong; my kid isn't exceptionally gung-ho about learning but there's a social element to school that is very appealing. Heck I'm working remote and I see it in myself. And as an aside I think that social side is the best part of school. A large measure of what my daughter has learned isn't as I've said any love of knowledge in the abstract sense but because that's what the kids she's friends with do and she relates to them and wants to continue to relate to them.

logicalmonster 6y ago

It’s impossible for any politician to express this sentiment publicly, but I don’t think society has really recognized the extreme price that was paid to keep a relatively small handful of (largely) old people alive for maybe another couple of years. The economic destruction will impact us and our ability to solve bigger world problems for many years. The lives lost through suicides, drug overdoses, and other problems won’t be fully understood for years. The damage to a young generation’s education and mental health might not ever be fully understood, but it could be massive.

loopz 6y ago
Or maybe this might enable some empathy?
jjaredsimpson 6y ago
This isn't an original thought. The president said this out loud. It certainly isn't brave to do life value accounting.

DoreenMichele 6y ago

There's repeated references throughout the piece to children missing physical activities and favorite foods or favorite places to eat: Her eyes begin burning around then, too. She takes every one of the “stretch breaks” her school offers, but what she would really like to do is run out to the playground for a game of tag. Piper misses her soccer team. Creedence misses the doughnut shop across the street, which recently shut down because of a lack of customers. She would head for the monkey bars, where she would race Sofia, just like before. If Luke could just go play football with his best friend after school, the way he used to, that might make him feel better. The above get framed like what they are missing is the social aspect, but lack of exercise and not eating right can cause somatopsychic side effects. I wonder how much of an unrecognized role that being more sedentary and experiencing significant dietary changes is playing here.

RickJWagner 6y ago

My youngest son attends junior high remotely. He says the first 5 minutes of every class is the same: The teacher bawling out students for not doing assignments. He says a lot of kids don't even bother to show up. My son's a good kid, he'd probably go to class even if his mother and I didn't stay on him. But we do. I'm pretty sure this is a form of 'privilege', being manufactured right now. Kids with strong parenting are at an advantage. Kids without are at a disadvantage.