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Can the app talk to them while they're not internet connected?

• sethhochberg 6y ago
  Yep. As long as your LAN is functional and the hub (which uses the ZigBee protocol often referenced in the comments here) is appropriately routeable, internet access is entirely optional - unless of course you want to control the lights from outside of your home.
  • isatty 6y ago
    If you want to control your lights from outside your home you can either setup a WireGuard LAN or just enable the integration with apple home if you are already in the ecosystem. Apple has less incentives to spy on you than whoever is running philips hue.
  • Brian_K_White 6y ago
    Then what prevents the app from being the path, in either/both directions? Reporting on the activities of the devices it can see, as well as sending firmware updates to them? Your printer gets firmware updates from HP, whenever HP wants, right past all your firewalls and vlans and non-routable subnets, in the form of print jobs from your pc.
    • lbotos 6y ago
      Source? While in principle your reasoning make sense, is this actually how HP updates their firmware?
    • cowsandmilk 6y ago
      Where did it say the app has to be on a device that can see the internet?