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Been seeing a lot of Psilocybin on the front of HN lately and I'm loving it. With Oregon legalizing it, I can't wait to try it out.

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wavefunction 6y ago
I am sure other opinions will differ but if you feel generally secure with yourself and your life, I'd recommend enjoying it out in the woods. My friend has had some magical experiences with the sunset and the onset of the evening but it's not bad during the day, just less readily apparent visual effects, according to them.
- tpfour 6y ago
  I would like to add that even if you "feel generally secure with yourself and your life", psilocybin could teach you otherwise.
  - wavefunction 6y ago
    Yes and it can confirm your feelings of security as well.
- LilBytes 6y ago
  Don't try it outside for the first time unless you've previously tripped. After which, yes. r/Outside trips can be so incredibly rewarding If you are going to try it for the first time, and for most I feel you should at least consider it. Please first do it in the comfort of your own home before venturing to r/Outside. This way if you're not familiar with the experience, and you get to a place of discomfort. You can sit yourself on your couch and watch mindless television while you revisit parts of your psych that you didn't know existed and slowly succumb to the fact, you are, actually an arsehole more often than you would like... Source: I've tripped dozens and dozens of times over many, many years. And some times. You just get sad. And being cuddled up on the couch is of much greater comfort than a tent in the humid Australian bush when you wish you had a cold beer with air conditioning.
  - wavefunction 6y ago
    I can only offer an anecdote but it's fine outside your first time as long as you're comfortable with yourself and your life and setting. I wouldn't do it around other people who aren't part of your adventure though.
    - ourcat 6y ago
      I would only do psychedelics around people I trust completely. Strangers and, as you say, people who just aren't in to it will just raise the likelihood of having a bummer.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    Does calling it r/Outside instead of just "outside" have any particular significance in the context of psychedelic substances? Just curious why you're using "r/Outside" specifically.
    - andrevoget 6y ago
      It's a reference to the forum r/Outside on reddit.com
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      - triceratops 6y ago
        Is that subreddit dedicated to psychedelics?
        LilBytes 6y ago
        No, it's a satirical subreddit. Where they talk about the real world as if you are partaking in an RPG.
  - PrefixKitten 6y ago
    How can one be an asshole much more than 'basically all the time'?
hutzlibu 6y ago
"Been seeing a lot of Psilocybin on the front of HN lately" I suppose a combination of quarantine with cold and dark outside ... (in the northern hemisphere, where probably most of HN users come from) And about trying it out: Make sure about the right set and setting, though. You need to feel save in the place and stable in the mind. Horrortrips are not so pleaseant. Ideally, have not anything scheduled the day(s) after, to have time to process it.
- c22 6y ago
  >...with cold and dark outside ... At least where I live it's also the season where you can just go outside and harvest them.
  - dr_dshiv 6y ago
    Liberty caps, in Europe?
    - MrDresden 6y ago
      They grow wild in Iceland's capital for instance.
    - yesbabyyes 6y ago
      They are considered native to Europe and grow all over the continent.
      - dr_dshiv 6y ago
        Funnily enough, they are never mentioned in all ancient texts on medicinal herbs. Almost like they were kept a secret!
    - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
      We also have them in the Pacific Northwest.
PragmaticPulp 6y ago
I have a neutral opinion on Psilocybin in general, but beware the selection bias in internet comment sections. Positive comments get upvoted and praised, negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. It does appear that Psilocybin has some therapeutic potential, but all of the good studies are performed in conjunction with professional-guided therapy sessions. DIY unguided experimentation is a different animal and shouldn't be confused with what's being reported in studies.
- vmception 6y ago
  > Negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. +1 to that and there is so much irony in it because of the focus on improved empathy. I usually end up leaving druggie anecdote circle-jerks just wishing that peer reviewed studies merely existed, and further frustrated about how many challenges there are to getting to that point. Even state-level legalization is whack for studies.
- nonbirithm 6y ago
  Only speculating, but maybe it's because the legal status of psilocybin prevents all but the people who are most interested in it from taking it. If it were legally available then maybe more people that would use it casually would emerge than if it were illegal, and the number of negative experiences would increase. From what I understand, it's best to have a good mindset and have someone else knowledgeable of the substance to guide you through the process, otherwise it isn't as effective or harmful to the psyche.
  - adrusi 6y ago
    Alternatively, maybe if it were legally available people who took it wouldn't have the stress of "what if the cops show up while we're tripping" hanging over them while they embarked on a drug experience that can magnify that sort of thing into a panic attack, and the rate of negative experiences would be lower.
_peeley 6y ago
Unfortunately the upcoming legislation doesn't make psilocybin available to casually try out - it won't be available for over-the-counter purchase like marijuana/alcohol, but rather during therapy sessions with a therapist specifically licensed to administer psilocybin. Possession of small amounts of it have been "decriminalized" (you need to pay a fine or go to rehab, but you don't go to jail) along with cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, etc. but it still isn't fully legal to purchase and possess per se.
moistly 6y ago
And starting today, there’s a ton of shroom advertising on Reddit.

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wavefunction 6y ago

I am sure other opinions will differ but if you feel generally secure with yourself and your life, I'd recommend enjoying it out in the woods. My friend has had some magical experiences with the sunset and the onset of the evening but it's not bad during the day, just less readily apparent visual effects, according to them.

tpfour 6y ago
I would like to add that even if you "feel generally secure with yourself and your life", psilocybin could teach you otherwise.
- wavefunction 6y ago
  Yes and it can confirm your feelings of security as well.
LilBytes 6y ago
Don't try it outside for the first time unless you've previously tripped. After which, yes. r/Outside trips can be so incredibly rewarding If you are going to try it for the first time, and for most I feel you should at least consider it. Please first do it in the comfort of your own home before venturing to r/Outside. This way if you're not familiar with the experience, and you get to a place of discomfort. You can sit yourself on your couch and watch mindless television while you revisit parts of your psych that you didn't know existed and slowly succumb to the fact, you are, actually an arsehole more often than you would like... Source: I've tripped dozens and dozens of times over many, many years. And some times. You just get sad. And being cuddled up on the couch is of much greater comfort than a tent in the humid Australian bush when you wish you had a cold beer with air conditioning.
- wavefunction 6y ago
  I can only offer an anecdote but it's fine outside your first time as long as you're comfortable with yourself and your life and setting. I wouldn't do it around other people who aren't part of your adventure though.
  - ourcat 6y ago
    I would only do psychedelics around people I trust completely. Strangers and, as you say, people who just aren't in to it will just raise the likelihood of having a bummer.
- triceratops 6y ago
  Does calling it r/Outside instead of just "outside" have any particular significance in the context of psychedelic substances? Just curious why you're using "r/Outside" specifically.
  - andrevoget 6y ago
    It's a reference to the forum r/Outside on reddit.com
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - triceratops 6y ago
      Is that subreddit dedicated to psychedelics?
      - LilBytes 6y ago
        No, it's a satirical subreddit. Where they talk about the real world as if you are partaking in an RPG.
- PrefixKitten 6y ago
  How can one be an asshole much more than 'basically all the time'?

hutzlibu 6y ago

"Been seeing a lot of Psilocybin on the front of HN lately" I suppose a combination of quarantine with cold and dark outside ... (in the northern hemisphere, where probably most of HN users come from) And about trying it out: Make sure about the right set and setting, though. You need to feel save in the place and stable in the mind. Horrortrips are not so pleaseant. Ideally, have not anything scheduled the day(s) after, to have time to process it.

c22 6y ago
>...with cold and dark outside ... At least where I live it's also the season where you can just go outside and harvest them.
- dr_dshiv 6y ago
  Liberty caps, in Europe?
  - MrDresden 6y ago
    They grow wild in Iceland's capital for instance.
  - yesbabyyes 6y ago
    They are considered native to Europe and grow all over the continent.
    - dr_dshiv 6y ago
      Funnily enough, they are never mentioned in all ancient texts on medicinal herbs. Almost like they were kept a secret!
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    We also have them in the Pacific Northwest.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago

I have a neutral opinion on Psilocybin in general, but beware the selection bias in internet comment sections. Positive comments get upvoted and praised, negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. It does appear that Psilocybin has some therapeutic potential, but all of the good studies are performed in conjunction with professional-guided therapy sessions. DIY unguided experimentation is a different animal and shouldn't be confused with what's being reported in studies.

vmception 6y ago
> Negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. +1 to that and there is so much irony in it because of the focus on improved empathy. I usually end up leaving druggie anecdote circle-jerks just wishing that peer reviewed studies merely existed, and further frustrated about how many challenges there are to getting to that point. Even state-level legalization is whack for studies.
nonbirithm 6y ago
Only speculating, but maybe it's because the legal status of psilocybin prevents all but the people who are most interested in it from taking it. If it were legally available then maybe more people that would use it casually would emerge than if it were illegal, and the number of negative experiences would increase. From what I understand, it's best to have a good mindset and have someone else knowledgeable of the substance to guide you through the process, otherwise it isn't as effective or harmful to the psyche.
- adrusi 6y ago
  Alternatively, maybe if it were legally available people who took it wouldn't have the stress of "what if the cops show up while we're tripping" hanging over them while they embarked on a drug experience that can magnify that sort of thing into a panic attack, and the rate of negative experiences would be lower.

_peeley 6y ago

Unfortunately the upcoming legislation doesn't make psilocybin available to casually try out - it won't be available for over-the-counter purchase like marijuana/alcohol, but rather during therapy sessions with a therapist specifically licensed to administer psilocybin. Possession of small amounts of it have been "decriminalized" (you need to pay a fine or go to rehab, but you don't go to jail) along with cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, etc. but it still isn't fully legal to purchase and possess per se.

moistly 6y ago

And starting today, there’s a ton of shroom advertising on Reddit.