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Honest author here -- I'm very happy that you noticed my humble blog post! I'm a big fan of Ardour and have been using it in my amateurish ways on and off sinc

by rekado 6y ago

Honest author here -- I'm very happy that you noticed my humble blog post! I'm a big fan of Ardour and have been using it in my amateurish ways on and off since 200...7? I wasn't aware of the Calf plugins being a source of crashes. Recent versions of Ardour have never crashed on me (different story for earlier versions). "Basic DSP mistakes" also sounds alarming. I'll take note of that for future projects. Perhaps the pretty UI could be adapted for suggested alternatives. It would help all those superficial people like me to migrate :) On a more serious note I like how intuitive the Calf UI is; almost every plugin lays out its primary parameters in a way that is very compatible with how I approach my work. I'm a command line person, so I certainly could make do with automatically generated interfaces from the LV2 manifests, but ... I try to shed my developer persona when having fun with audio, so anything pretty that keeps me from thinking too much helps to keep me in the zone.

afro88 6y ago
> "Basic DSP mistakes" also sounds alarming. It does, but as a musician, I don't think anyone should care so much about this. If you like how it sounds, and it's working in your productions - great!
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  Zipper noise when adjusting parameters? This is about as basic as it gets. If you can't hear it, you probably shouldn't be mixing your own music, because lots of other people will. (of course, "DSP mistakes" can often be used creatively and there's nothing wrong with that)
  - te_chris 6y ago
    Dude, chill. End result is what matters, if it’s music, it’s music.
    - soperj 6y ago
      Lol. The guy wrote Ardour. Might know a thing or two.
      - te_chris 6y ago
        He said the guy shouldn’t be making music, which takes it from technical criticism to bs. It’s the music that counts, not how it’s made.
        rekado 6y ago
        It doesn't faze me, because I'm not automating plugin parameters for things like reverb, compression, etc, so zipper noises simply don't happen. If I were to use automation and dynamically adjust parameters during playback and noise littered my tracks I'd agree with Paul: if I couldn't hear that it would be a terrible idea for me to mix the tracks myself! That said, I did find a couple of spots where I forgot to crossfade the edges of punch in/out points, so there are quiet but audible clicks. Oh well. That's what happens when you mix audio with the headphones slightly off to be able to hear if the baby is sleeping poorly next door... :) The point was to have some creative fun and have it quickly. That's what it was, so I'm happy.
        PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
        Actually, I didn't say that. I said they shouldn't be mixing their own music. Until a decade or two ago, almost no musician ever mixed their own music, they relied on audio engineers to do that. The proliferation of DAWs and cheap powerful computers has changed that so that now many musicians believe they can/should do this work themselves. They're not necessarily wrong, but a little humility is required I think, mostly by remembering that good audio engineering is a distinct skill set, quite different from being a good musician. Although there are few exceptions, I'd wager that almost no example of whatever you (or anyone else) considers "great music" was mixed by the musicians who made it.
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by rekado 6y ago

afro88 6y ago

> "Basic DSP mistakes" also sounds alarming. It does, but as a musician, I don't think anyone should care so much about this. If you like how it sounds, and it's working in your productions - great!

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
Zipper noise when adjusting parameters? This is about as basic as it gets. If you can't hear it, you probably shouldn't be mixing your own music, because lots of other people will. (of course, "DSP mistakes" can often be used creatively and there's nothing wrong with that)
- te_chris 6y ago
  Dude, chill. End result is what matters, if it’s music, it’s music.
  - soperj 6y ago
    Lol. The guy wrote Ardour. Might know a thing or two.
    - te_chris 6y ago
      He said the guy shouldn’t be making music, which takes it from technical criticism to bs. It’s the music that counts, not how it’s made.
      - rekado 6y ago
        It doesn't faze me, because I'm not automating plugin parameters for things like reverb, compression, etc, so zipper noises simply don't happen. If I were to use automation and dynamically adjust parameters during playback and noise littered my tracks I'd agree with Paul: if I couldn't hear that it would be a terrible idea for me to mix the tracks myself! That said, I did find a couple of spots where I forgot to crossfade the edges of punch in/out points, so there are quiet but audible clicks. Oh well. That's what happens when you mix audio with the headphones slightly off to be able to hear if the baby is sleeping poorly next door... :) The point was to have some creative fun and have it quickly. That's what it was, so I'm happy.
      - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
        Actually, I didn't say that. I said they shouldn't be mixing their own music. Until a decade or two ago, almost no musician ever mixed their own music, they relied on audio engineers to do that. The proliferation of DAWs and cheap powerful computers has changed that so that now many musicians believe they can/should do this work themselves. They're not necessarily wrong, but a little humility is required I think, mostly by remembering that good audio engineering is a distinct skill set, quite different from being a good musician. Although there are few exceptions, I'd wager that almost no example of whatever you (or anyone else) considers "great music" was mixed by the musicians who made it.
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