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If that also includes MHEV then the statistics tell nothing. I bought a new Audi A6, it's a quite massive 3.0 diesel (210kW / 282 hp), I was actually surprised

If that also includes MHEV then the statistics tell nothing. I bought a new Audi A6, it's a quite massive 3.0 diesel (210kW / 282 hp), I was actually surprised it's a hybrid when I went to register it and pay the "tax" - I got 50% off because it's a hybrid. I had to actually look it up on Google. It turns out most new Audi cars are MHEV, which is basically only used when the car is "coasting", the motor is decoupled from the rest and if you don't disable Start-Stop then it will also be turned off. Now in this special circumstance there is an additional battery + small electric motor that will only help to start the engine again. That's it. The motor doesn't really pull the vehicle. It does save some fuel especially on the highway, but not in the city. Audi mentions up to 0.7 liters / 100 kilometers for Audi Q8. I see it mainly as a benefit for the driver, in most EU countries you pay a lot money for bigger (more kW) cars.

iso1631 6y ago
I'm fine with litres and km, but struggle with fuel/distance (ratehr than distance/fuel) That saving is like going from 35mpg to 39mpg, or 50 to 58, or 27 to 29.
- Daniel_sk 6y ago
  For me, mpg doesn't tell anything :-). You get used to it, I guess they are both the same thing in the end. In EU the distance in this case is always 100 km. So when someone says that the fuel consumption of his car is 6 liters, everyone knows it's 6 liters / 100 kilometers. So you can always just compare the amount of fuel (e.g. most cars consume about 6-7 liters).
  - iso1631 6y ago
    In the UK I know most cars do about 45mpg, or about 16km per litre - the higher the number the better. If I put 10l in, I'll be able to travel 160km. It's the swapping round that confuses me. I know it's "how much fuel will I need to go X distance", I just don't grok it intuitively that way round The "per 100km" seems arbitrary to me too, why not 60ml/km.

iso1631 6y ago

I'm fine with litres and km, but struggle with fuel/distance (ratehr than distance/fuel) That saving is like going from 35mpg to 39mpg, or 50 to 58, or 27 to 29.

Daniel_sk 6y ago
For me, mpg doesn't tell anything :-). You get used to it, I guess they are both the same thing in the end. In EU the distance in this case is always 100 km. So when someone says that the fuel consumption of his car is 6 liters, everyone knows it's 6 liters / 100 kilometers. So you can always just compare the amount of fuel (e.g. most cars consume about 6-7 liters).
- iso1631 6y ago
  In the UK I know most cars do about 45mpg, or about 16km per litre - the higher the number the better. If I put 10l in, I'll be able to travel 160km. It's the swapping round that confuses me. I know it's "how much fuel will I need to go X distance", I just don't grok it intuitively that way round The "per 100km" seems arbitrary to me too, why not 60ml/km.