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Ex-Wall Street guy here. High speed trading has no societal value and relies on a large number of bad-faith bids and offers - these people are parasites. Crea
by TomSwirly 6y ago
Ex-Wall Street guy here. High speed trading has no societal value and relies on a large number of bad-faith bids and offers - these people are parasites.
Creating liquidity has some value - though not as much as bankers tell themselves.
But HFT does not add liquidity. No one needs subsecond liquidity, but even more important, HFT traders vanish like a fart in a windstorm the moment liquidity is actually challenged.
Market makers are the ones who provide consistent liquidity, because they have to keep inventory of the stocks.
Now look at what HFT does - they flood the wires with hugely out-of-the-money bids and asks, all of which are in bad faith, because they know they won't even get hit or lifted.
So everyone else pays for this, and they get to shake absolutely everyone down for a few pennies, a trillion times a year.
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It would be trivial to stop them without changing the markets in the least. Even just charging a dollar for every "bad faith" bid or offer made that expires without being within, say, 10% of the actual price, would put a big dent in them. Punitive taxes on trades where the trader doesn't keep the position for more than a few seconds would also be very effective.
- gpderetta 6y agomost electronic market makers are doing HFT these days though.
- nv-vn 6y ago> High speed trading has no societal value And investment banking does? >Even just charging a dollar for every "bad faith" bid or offer made that expires without being within, say, 10% of the actual price, would put a big dent in them. Tell me this, what is the actual harm of these orders?
- tayistay 6y ago> And investment banking does? Whataboutism.
- tcbawo 6y agoI think your definition of HFT is very narrow. Many companies that use the term HFT are not involved in the type of activities described in The Big Short.