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>I'm too European to understand why this makes any sense. This really reads as "Is this some peasant joke I'm too rich to understand".

by s_dev 6y ago

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kyriee 6y ago
No it just means that it’s beyond comprehension. As a Canadian, I feel the same way. Everything about the American healthcare system feels like a nightmare to me. From the cost, to the fact that it’s usually tied to your employer (!!) and that even if you have good insurance, you have to make sure to get care from “in network” healthcare professionals. It seems to require a tremendous amount of energy for very little benefit for average citizens.
- s_dev 6y ago
  You can understand or not understand something -- it has 0 to do with your nationality. "As a Canadian" is just nonsense. It doesn't bring much to the table. "As a Canadian doctor" is authority. You often find this with appeals from "As a mother" -- it's just a fallacy.
  - ryanbrunner 6y ago
    I don't think this is a very charitable reading. "As a European", "As a Canadian", etc. isn't a statement of authority or a value judgement that makes someone better, it's just stating that they come from a cultural context where this isn't the norm, so it seems bizarre. Including the cultural context you're viewing things from can be useful so that people can understand where you're coming from.
- stefan_ 6y ago
  My personal favorite was the $2000 copay, like healthcare is the same as car insurance where you might forgo the repair of a dent.
Jedd 6y ago
A reference to feudalism is a bit strange there, but I'll weigh in with the observation that in Australia it's comparably challenging to understand. I think in almost any western country (and many non-western) 'free' (or close to) healthcare is a basic right of citizenship, so it's extremely difficult to try to comprehend how 20-40% of the average person's salary could be consumed by treating a child's minor accident.
pjc50 6y ago
Well, yes. America has a hugely wealthy private sphere for some people, and an impoverished public sphere.

>I'm too European to understand why this makes any sense. This really reads as "Is this some peasant joke I'm too rich to understand".

by s_dev 6y ago

>I'm too European to understand why this makes any sense. This really reads as "Is this some peasant joke I'm too rich to understand".

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kyriee 6y ago

No it just means that it’s beyond comprehension. As a Canadian, I feel the same way. Everything about the American healthcare system feels like a nightmare to me. From the cost, to the fact that it’s usually tied to your employer (!!) and that even if you have good insurance, you have to make sure to get care from “in network” healthcare professionals. It seems to require a tremendous amount of energy for very little benefit for average citizens.

s_dev 6y ago
You can understand or not understand something -- it has 0 to do with your nationality. "As a Canadian" is just nonsense. It doesn't bring much to the table. "As a Canadian doctor" is authority. You often find this with appeals from "As a mother" -- it's just a fallacy.
- ryanbrunner 6y ago
  I don't think this is a very charitable reading. "As a European", "As a Canadian", etc. isn't a statement of authority or a value judgement that makes someone better, it's just stating that they come from a cultural context where this isn't the norm, so it seems bizarre. Including the cultural context you're viewing things from can be useful so that people can understand where you're coming from.
stefan_ 6y ago
My personal favorite was the $2000 copay, like healthcare is the same as car insurance where you might forgo the repair of a dent.

Jedd 6y ago

A reference to feudalism is a bit strange there, but I'll weigh in with the observation that in Australia it's comparably challenging to understand. I think in almost any western country (and many non-western) 'free' (or close to) healthcare is a basic right of citizenship, so it's extremely difficult to try to comprehend how 20-40% of the average person's salary could be consumed by treating a child's minor accident.

pjc50 6y ago

Well, yes. America has a hugely wealthy private sphere for some people, and an impoverished public sphere.