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What about in the day and age where "silence is violence"? Apparently just trying to not get involved is enough to make a whole company raciest?

peteretep 6y ago
Announcing a policy where you’re saying “we’re above politics and we’ll pay you to leave if you’re not” is quite definitely not an example of “trying to not get involved”
- TerminalWarrior 6y ago
  I get it. If you don't want your company to be involved in political issues whats the problem? (Other than the NYT coming after you apparently).
- manigandham 6y ago
  How is it not?
  - jolux 6y ago
    It's taking a side and saying that if you don't like the side they take then you can leave. The side they're taking is "we're above politics."
    - manigandham 6y ago
      And "above politics" is the same as "not involved in politics". Call it a side/position/stance/perspective/angle or whatever else. It's still means they're not involved.
      - jolux 6y ago
        It means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs in politics. We can call this being apolitical if we’d like, we just need to be clear about what we mean.
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        manigandham 6y ago
        > "means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs" No it doesn't. Perhaps constantly forcing your subjective interpreted and implied meaning on everyone else is the root of the problem. > "call this being apolitical" Sure, call it that. It literally means not involved. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apolitical https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apolitical
        jolux 6y ago
        I still feel that you're missing my point but I am clearly not skilled enough to make it more obvious.
        manigandham 6y ago
        Your point is exceedingly obvious. It's being refuted by both literal definition and reasonable interpretation of the vast majority.
    - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
      As I understood the "we're above politics", it was "you don't do politics at work". How is that taking a side? And if it is taking a side, which side?
      - jolux 6y ago
        Well, this particular policy change appears to have been at least partially in response to labor action that the company didn’t like, and if that’s not political than nothing is.

peteretep 6y ago

Announcing a policy where you’re saying “we’re above politics and we’ll pay you to leave if you’re not” is quite definitely not an example of “trying to not get involved”

TerminalWarrior 6y ago
I get it. If you don't want your company to be involved in political issues whats the problem? (Other than the NYT coming after you apparently).
manigandham 6y ago
How is it not?
- jolux 6y ago
  It's taking a side and saying that if you don't like the side they take then you can leave. The side they're taking is "we're above politics."
  - manigandham 6y ago
    And "above politics" is the same as "not involved in politics". Call it a side/position/stance/perspective/angle or whatever else. It's still means they're not involved.
    - jolux 6y ago
      It means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs in politics. We can call this being apolitical if we’d like, we just need to be clear about what we mean.
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      - manigandham 6y ago
        > "means they’re involved in preserving the present state of affairs" No it doesn't. Perhaps constantly forcing your subjective interpreted and implied meaning on everyone else is the root of the problem. > "call this being apolitical" Sure, call it that. It literally means not involved. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apolitical https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apolitical
        jolux 6y ago
        I still feel that you're missing my point but I am clearly not skilled enough to make it more obvious.
        manigandham 6y ago
        Your point is exceedingly obvious. It's being refuted by both literal definition and reasonable interpretation of the vast majority.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    As I understood the "we're above politics", it was "you don't do politics at work". How is that taking a side? And if it is taking a side, which side?
    - jolux 6y ago
      Well, this particular policy change appears to have been at least partially in response to labor action that the company didn’t like, and if that’s not political than nothing is.