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> Is that something that's going to make them reconsider sharing details in future stories? It's a fair question, but I doubt it. While getting a hot scoop an

by nlh 6y ago

> Is that something that's going to make them reconsider sharing details in future stories? It's a fair question, but I doubt it. While getting a hot scoop and dropping it with a bang is something that feels good (and sells papers, so to speak), it's not the driving force behind how a professional news org works. The NYT is a professional news org. One of the things a professional news orgs does is fact check, get statements, and give its sources a chance to respond.

travisoneill1 6y ago
One of the other things a professional news org does is not fire its editorial page manager for printing an opposing viewpoint.
nullc 6y ago
The New York times is not a professional news org. They do not, in fact, fact check, get statements, or give their subjects a chance to respond, at least not consistently. When Nathaniel Popper wrote a hit piece substantially targeting me personally he (and NYT's fact checkers-- if they exist/were-involved at all) diligently avoided having any communication with anyone who could possibly contradict his narrative, including, of course, those he targeted. Not even the classic "email to an unmonitored mailbox 20 minutes before going to print to accompany a 'could not be reached for comment'" so often used in the industry and it isn't like he didn't know how to reach me. The subsequent apology I got from a times board member was only a small consolation. My experiences are not dissimilar to others I've talked to that have been the targets of hit pieces in the NYT. In my view the NYT is a garbage venue that is callously indifferent to the truth at best. At least coinbase knew this was coming, often NYT targets don't enjoy even that small piece of human decency.
- creata 6y ago
  The New York Times is one of the most respected news organizations in the world, so if they're not a "professional news org", then who is? Also, do you elaborate on your struggle with the NYT elsewhere? I'm interested, but you haven't given us much information at all.
  - hda2 6y ago
    > The New York Times is one of the most respected news organizations in the world Not anymore. The web advertising industry strongly effected the quality of their work. Now they're just another slightly larger news organization with a spotty track record.

by nlh 6y ago

travisoneill1 6y ago

One of the other things a professional news org does is not fire its editorial page manager for printing an opposing viewpoint.

nullc 6y ago

The New York times is not a professional news org. They do not, in fact, fact check, get statements, or give their subjects a chance to respond, at least not consistently. When Nathaniel Popper wrote a hit piece substantially targeting me personally he (and NYT's fact checkers-- if they exist/were-involved at all) diligently avoided having any communication with anyone who could possibly contradict his narrative, including, of course, those he targeted. Not even the classic "email to an unmonitored mailbox 20 minutes before going to print to accompany a 'could not be reached for comment'" so often used in the industry and it isn't like he didn't know how to reach me. The subsequent apology I got from a times board member was only a small consolation. My experiences are not dissimilar to others I've talked to that have been the targets of hit pieces in the NYT. In my view the NYT is a garbage venue that is callously indifferent to the truth at best. At least coinbase knew this was coming, often NYT targets don't enjoy even that small piece of human decency.

creata 6y ago
The New York Times is one of the most respected news organizations in the world, so if they're not a "professional news org", then who is? Also, do you elaborate on your struggle with the NYT elsewhere? I'm interested, but you haven't given us much information at all.
- hda2 6y ago
  > The New York Times is one of the most respected news organizations in the world Not anymore. The web advertising industry strongly effected the quality of their work. Now they're just another slightly larger news organization with a spotty track record.