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> same goal Scoring against Getafe is not comparable to scoring against England in a world cup, specially when it is Argentina against England (in a game Engla

by yiyus 6y ago

> same goal Scoring against Getafe is not comparable to scoring against England in a world cup, specially when it is Argentina against England (in a game England invented) only a few years against the Falklands war. It's a great goal by Messi, but Maradona's goal has a place in history books.

simonebrunozzi 6y ago
> (in a game England invented) It seems that soccer was invented in China, not in England. [0] [0]: https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-football.htm https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-footb...
- nimbleal 6y ago
  My understanding is that kicking something about with the aim of getting it somewhere or other existed in lots of different places, independently. The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England.
  - mvc 6y ago
    > The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England. Arguably Scotland but we're used to England stealing our inventions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F...
- peteretep 6y ago
  Did you read the link you posted? > Records trace the history of soccer back more than 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Greece, Rome, and parts of Central America also claim to have started the sport; but it was England that transitioned soccer, or what the British and many other people around the world call “football,” into the game we know today. In short: everyone lays claim to kicking around a ball, but England invented the modern game
  - mvc 6y ago
    When people talk about "the modern game", I think most would agree we're talking about passing to players running into a better position further up the pitch The first rules established in England allowed no such thing. Forward passes were still not permitted (like Rugby). It was in Scotland where the offside rule that loosely resembles what it is today was actually invented, allowing players to spread themselves a bit more around the pitch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F... After a few thumping defeats, the English sides had to evolve to remain competetive.
xapata 6y ago
Getafe today is better than Getafe 2004, for those of you wondering.
vagrantJin 6y ago
> Falklands war. It seems the intersection of football and politics makes for outstanding games. Cometh the hour, cometh the man

by yiyus 6y ago

simonebrunozzi 6y ago

> (in a game England invented) It seems that soccer was invented in China, not in England. [0] [0]: https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-football.htm https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-footb...

nimbleal 6y ago
My understanding is that kicking something about with the aim of getting it somewhere or other existed in lots of different places, independently. The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England.
- mvc 6y ago
  > The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England. Arguably Scotland but we're used to England stealing our inventions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F...
peteretep 6y ago
Did you read the link you posted? > Records trace the history of soccer back more than 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Greece, Rome, and parts of Central America also claim to have started the sport; but it was England that transitioned soccer, or what the British and many other people around the world call “football,” into the game we know today. In short: everyone lays claim to kicking around a ball, but England invented the modern game
- mvc 6y ago
  When people talk about "the modern game", I think most would agree we're talking about passing to players running into a better position further up the pitch The first rules established in England allowed no such thing. Forward passes were still not permitted (like Rugby). It was in Scotland where the offside rule that loosely resembles what it is today was actually invented, allowing players to spread themselves a bit more around the pitch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F... After a few thumping defeats, the English sides had to evolve to remain competetive.

xapata 6y ago

Getafe today is better than Getafe 2004, for those of you wondering.

vagrantJin 6y ago

> Falklands war. It seems the intersection of football and politics makes for outstanding games. Cometh the hour, cometh the man