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Nope, not what I’m saying at all (in part because your comment is hyperbolic and untrue). Some folks need more than 64gb RAM which is the highest amount most la

Nope, not what I’m saying at all (in part because your comment is hyperbolic and untrue). Some folks need more than 64gb RAM which is the highest amount most laptops have.

vetinari 6y ago
He is not that off. Apple asks $200 for 8 GB, so he is at the same order of magnitude. For comparison, I've bought this week 16 GB DDR4 ECC (unregistered) sticks for 67 EUR per piece (before VAT).
- jsjohnst 6y ago
  Great, so you bought an different type of RAM in a completely different form factor and paid a different price. This is on “processor package” RAM and will thus have an entirely different price basis than a removable stick would, not even factoring in the Apple Tax. Furthermore, how is that relevant to the point _I_ was making about needing more than 64gb of RAM? If you both want to tangent, fine do so, but don’t try to put words in my mouth while doing it.
  - vetinari 6y ago
    > Great, so you bought an different type of RAM in a completely different form factor and paid a different price. It is being called "using an example" or "illustrative example". For comparison, I've used a type of RAM that is traditionally much more expensive than you find in laptops. > This is on “processor package” RAM and will thus have an entirely different price basis than a removable stick would, No. 1) The same price is being asked for RAM in non-M1 models. 2) You could put any price tag you want, because the item is single-sourced, the vendor can pull a quote out of the thin air and you cannot find exact equivalent on the market. Therefore, for comparison, a functionally and parametric similar item is being used. > how is that relevant to the point _I_ was making about needing more than 64gb of RAM? You get a different product, that supports more RAM. > If you both want to tangent, fine do so, but don’t try to put words in my mouth while doing it. Could you point out, where I did that? I was pointing out, that your note about the GP being hyperbolic is untrue - he was in the ballpark.
    - jsjohnst 6y ago
      > I was pointing out, that your note about the GP being hyperbolic is untrue - he was in the ballpark. Essentially as in the ballpark as $80 is, both are off by 2.5x. Claiming they are “same order of magnitude, so it’s not hyperbolic” is laughable. $100k and $250k are both same order of magnitude, but are radically different prices, no?

Nope, not what I’m saying at all (in part because your comment is hyperbolic and untrue). Some folks need more than 64gb RAM which is the highest amount most laptops have.

vetinari 6y ago

He is not that off. Apple asks $200 for 8 GB, so he is at the same order of magnitude. For comparison, I've bought this week 16 GB DDR4 ECC (unregistered) sticks for 67 EUR per piece (before VAT).

jsjohnst 6y ago
Great, so you bought an different type of RAM in a completely different form factor and paid a different price. This is on “processor package” RAM and will thus have an entirely different price basis than a removable stick would, not even factoring in the Apple Tax. Furthermore, how is that relevant to the point _I_ was making about needing more than 64gb of RAM? If you both want to tangent, fine do so, but don’t try to put words in my mouth while doing it.
- vetinari 6y ago
  > Great, so you bought an different type of RAM in a completely different form factor and paid a different price. It is being called "using an example" or "illustrative example". For comparison, I've used a type of RAM that is traditionally much more expensive than you find in laptops. > This is on “processor package” RAM and will thus have an entirely different price basis than a removable stick would, No. 1) The same price is being asked for RAM in non-M1 models. 2) You could put any price tag you want, because the item is single-sourced, the vendor can pull a quote out of the thin air and you cannot find exact equivalent on the market. Therefore, for comparison, a functionally and parametric similar item is being used. > how is that relevant to the point _I_ was making about needing more than 64gb of RAM? You get a different product, that supports more RAM. > If you both want to tangent, fine do so, but don’t try to put words in my mouth while doing it. Could you point out, where I did that? I was pointing out, that your note about the GP being hyperbolic is untrue - he was in the ballpark.
  - jsjohnst 6y ago
    > I was pointing out, that your note about the GP being hyperbolic is untrue - he was in the ballpark. Essentially as in the ballpark as $80 is, both are off by 2.5x. Claiming they are “same order of magnitude, so it’s not hyperbolic” is laughable. $100k and $250k are both same order of magnitude, but are radically different prices, no?