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PIP : Performance Improvement Plan I assume this to mean that it is an element of an individual's PIP, a formal process to set guides for getting someone to co
by smithza 6y ago
PIP : Performance Improvement Plan
I assume this to mean that it is an element of an individual's PIP, a formal process to set guides for getting someone to commit to a higher level of achievement.
- LegitShady 6y agoWhile on its face PIP is a guide to getting someone to commit to a higher level of improvement, for many companies its a formal warning that you need to shape up or you're going to be let go.
- owenmarshall 6y ago> for many companies its a formal warning that you need to shape up or you're going to be let go. Patently incorrect. A PIP is management telling you that you need to seek alternative employment, now. Joking/sarcasm aside: I’ve never seen or heard someone who is placed on a PIP successfully “exit” the PIP. They exit the company or they’re exited from the company. PIPs seem to mark the start of the “we are building formal documentation to fire you” phase of losing a job.
- LegitShady 6y agoya i agree.
- jschwartzi 6y agoI got PIP'ed and actually fixed the problem I had and resolved the PIP. The problem was that I would mis-ship items sometimes in a warehouse. I figured out that I couldn't reliably read some of the product labels, so I went to go get an eye exam. Apparently I had 20/100 vision in one eye due to astigmatism. Getting glasses meant that I quit fucking up, so they dropped the PIP and moved me into another part of the company. I guess I'm the poster child for having vision insurance as a company benefit.
- jugg1es 6y agothat made me feel good, thanks
- iamtedd 6y agoWas it management's decision to move you or yours? If it was theirs', it seems like management didn't have confidence you could improve once the problem was found and fixed. Kinda like changing two things at a time when troubleshooting. How did you feel about that?
- jschwartzi 6y agoIt was mine. An opening appeared in the service department and I applied for it.
- iamtedd 6y agoThanks for replying :)
- one2know 6y agoWow, I didn't know pickers and stowers got PIPs. Obviously you did a smart thing in that you went and got a medical diagnosis. The company would be facing a medical disability lawsuit if they followed through with the PIP/firing. A lawyer I spoke with suggested employees regularly visit their doctor about work related stress so that when they inevitably get PIP'ed they can claim medical leave and work related illness. Some places its a war zone and that's what workers have to do.
- jschwartzi 6y agoI was a warehouse clerk which meant I was responsible for picking stowing, receiving, shipping and organizing the warehouse.
- woofgum 6y ago> I’ve never seen or heard someone who is placed on a PIP successfully “exit” the PIP I have and at Amazon and AWS. The pattern I have seen is medical related. Someone is on some sort of medication that is screwing with their abilities and don't realize it. I've seen multiple cases: one where it was meds that caused liver problems and the person didn't know they were supposed to get regularly testing (crappy doctor) and another where they found out meds they were on caused short-term memory loss. These surfaced during the PIPs and were fixed - and the folks got out fine.
- ah88 6y agoNot Amazon but at an HR/leader meeting our HR disclosed 45% of people on PIPs end up staying with the company.