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Care to explain why you feel this way?

by jowsie 6y ago

zackees 6y ago
Go refer to their mission statement: "organize the worlds information and make it universally accessible and useful".
- shakna 6y ago
  > Additionally, due to repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy and other channel monetization policies, we’ve suspended the channel from the YouTube Partner Program and as a result, its monetization on YouTube. It seems that their mission statement is not in conflict with their approach in this matter. Information, rather than disinformation.
  - redflame7 6y ago
    Oh would you people please stop pretending like we understand this pandemic perfectly and all it will take is masks and 6ft of space to make it disappear. It’s ALL speculation, no one has the perfect solution, they’re just opinions. Stop confusing multiple opinions as fact.
    - shakna 6y ago
      The video that was taken down and resulted in the strike was a claim that a guaranteed vaccine existed. It sounds like you would also disagree with that claim, and believe it to be misinformation, as YouTube did, in this case.
      - blueflame7 6y ago
        Who cares? There’s a billion youtube videos with misinformation on them? Spoiler alert some textbooks are wrong too... If you can’t see this is a means to silence opposition rather than engage in open debate then you’re crazy naive or willfully ignorant. If you can control the topics of conversation, you can control just about everything. No one has that right. No one know’s better than others. It’s pure arrogance whenever you start to think about doing things because other’s might not be as smart as you
    - DarknessFalls 6y ago
      Stop confusing scientific consensus as "multiple opinions". You are muddying the waters to shove your right-wing indoctrinated crap in front of people.
- paintstripper 6y ago
  yeah, information. Not disinformation.
  - cannedslime 6y ago
    You don't find it just a little dystopian that the biggest player in information exchange has begun to act like the arbiter of truth?
- deleted 6y ago
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- fluidcruft 6y ago
  Disinformation is not useful and needn't be made universally accessible.
  - redflame7 6y ago
    And disinformation is what ever the tyrant says it is. If it’s wrong, prove it dont silence it.
    - bleepblorp 6y ago
      Suppose, hypothetically, that someone with malicious intent installed an advertising billboard, next to your home, that falsely accused you of having committed a horrific crime. Suppose, further, that you lost your job and your family because of the false allegations on that billboard. Would you work to get that billboard taken down or would you put up your own billboard to deny the allegations and call it a day? Proving disinformation wrong does not make it go away and the answer to malicious speech is not more speech.
      - blueflame7 6y ago
        Id sue the billboard operator and hope that I work with people Intelligent enough not to make snap judgments on people based on what the billboard told them to. There’s really no idea that should ever require censoring. People just need to stop doing things because they were told to but instead do things because it makes sense to them to do so
        slovette 6y ago
        On what grounds WOULD YOU SUE I WONDER?? You’ve proven the purpose to YouTube taking the video down here: to avoid being sued because misinformation CAUSES DAMAGE. You would “assume” the people you work with are “intelligent” enough to know better? Man. You have a disgust for an imaginary enemy that’s very hypocritical and oxymoronic. It so easy for people to invent an enemy nowadays. Youtube just behaved exactly how you described you would in this metaphor, but instead of taking the closet rational explanation, you have to invent an enemy that aligns to this emotionally driven agenda. We’re all on the same team. You’re just refusing to settle down and see that. It’s like the whole damn world is so starving for conflict to the point of whipping up imaginary tales to stoke it out... why??? If zombie novels change the infection from biological to psychological and the thing those zombies starve for isn’t flesh but relentless hatred, that novel about people eating their own families becomes a true prophecy.
cannedslime 6y ago
Care to explain how its not? Let me preface this by saying that I have not seen the video, but even if they said that only the flying spaghetti monster can save you from ARDS, I'd rather live in a world with free exchange of information (even misinformation).
- gamblor956 6y ago
  OAN is free to spread their nonsense on their website.
  - cannedslime 6y ago
    Yes and when godaddy and visa pulls their services they are free to become their own domain registrar and credit card company as well!
    - gamblor956 6y ago
      Yes, anyone can become their own domain registrar if need be. As for credit card processing services, generally Visa and Mastercard are enforcing policies of the banks that actually provide the credit; they simply take the heat because they're paid to. But on that note, both the CEOs of Visa and Mastercard are...Republican donors...almost exclusively...and so would, if anything, favor right-leaning websites such as OAN.
      - cannedslime 6y ago
        > As for credit card processing services, generally Visa and Mastercard are enforcing policies of the banks that actually provide the credit; Generally! I know at least one American comedian who is banned by both for taking jabs at you know who... And no you just dont become a domain registrar like that. You need to be quite privileged to do that.
        gamblor956 6y ago
        I don't actually know who you're referring to, either on the comedian side or the "you know who" side) but if you're referring to Kathy Griffith she is gainfully employed in Hollywood again and was never banned by Visa or Mastercard. She simply lost a bunch of gigs because people didn't want to be associated with someone who thought it was funny to joke about beheading the president (regardless of whether they agreed with her sentiments). And becoming a domain registrar requires a demonstration of technical capabilities, but otherwise does not require any privileges. Literally anyone can apply to become a domain registrar if they can demonstrate that they actually know how to do it.

Care to explain why you feel this way?

by jowsie 6y ago

Care to explain why you feel this way?

zackees 6y ago

Go refer to their mission statement: "organize the worlds information and make it universally accessible and useful".

shakna 6y ago
> Additionally, due to repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy and other channel monetization policies, we’ve suspended the channel from the YouTube Partner Program and as a result, its monetization on YouTube. It seems that their mission statement is not in conflict with their approach in this matter. Information, rather than disinformation.
- redflame7 6y ago
  Oh would you people please stop pretending like we understand this pandemic perfectly and all it will take is masks and 6ft of space to make it disappear. It’s ALL speculation, no one has the perfect solution, they’re just opinions. Stop confusing multiple opinions as fact.
  - shakna 6y ago
    The video that was taken down and resulted in the strike was a claim that a guaranteed vaccine existed. It sounds like you would also disagree with that claim, and believe it to be misinformation, as YouTube did, in this case.
    - blueflame7 6y ago
      Who cares? There’s a billion youtube videos with misinformation on them? Spoiler alert some textbooks are wrong too... If you can’t see this is a means to silence opposition rather than engage in open debate then you’re crazy naive or willfully ignorant. If you can control the topics of conversation, you can control just about everything. No one has that right. No one know’s better than others. It’s pure arrogance whenever you start to think about doing things because other’s might not be as smart as you
  - DarknessFalls 6y ago
    Stop confusing scientific consensus as "multiple opinions". You are muddying the waters to shove your right-wing indoctrinated crap in front of people.
paintstripper 6y ago
yeah, information. Not disinformation.
- cannedslime 6y ago
  You don't find it just a little dystopian that the biggest player in information exchange has begun to act like the arbiter of truth?
deleted 6y ago
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fluidcruft 6y ago
Disinformation is not useful and needn't be made universally accessible.
- redflame7 6y ago
  And disinformation is what ever the tyrant says it is. If it’s wrong, prove it dont silence it.
  - bleepblorp 6y ago
    Suppose, hypothetically, that someone with malicious intent installed an advertising billboard, next to your home, that falsely accused you of having committed a horrific crime. Suppose, further, that you lost your job and your family because of the false allegations on that billboard. Would you work to get that billboard taken down or would you put up your own billboard to deny the allegations and call it a day? Proving disinformation wrong does not make it go away and the answer to malicious speech is not more speech.
    - blueflame7 6y ago
      Id sue the billboard operator and hope that I work with people Intelligent enough not to make snap judgments on people based on what the billboard told them to. There’s really no idea that should ever require censoring. People just need to stop doing things because they were told to but instead do things because it makes sense to them to do so
      - slovette 6y ago
        On what grounds WOULD YOU SUE I WONDER?? You’ve proven the purpose to YouTube taking the video down here: to avoid being sued because misinformation CAUSES DAMAGE. You would “assume” the people you work with are “intelligent” enough to know better? Man. You have a disgust for an imaginary enemy that’s very hypocritical and oxymoronic. It so easy for people to invent an enemy nowadays. Youtube just behaved exactly how you described you would in this metaphor, but instead of taking the closet rational explanation, you have to invent an enemy that aligns to this emotionally driven agenda. We’re all on the same team. You’re just refusing to settle down and see that. It’s like the whole damn world is so starving for conflict to the point of whipping up imaginary tales to stoke it out... why??? If zombie novels change the infection from biological to psychological and the thing those zombies starve for isn’t flesh but relentless hatred, that novel about people eating their own families becomes a true prophecy.

cannedslime 6y ago

Care to explain how its not? Let me preface this by saying that I have not seen the video, but even if they said that only the flying spaghetti monster can save you from ARDS, I'd rather live in a world with free exchange of information (even misinformation).

gamblor956 6y ago
OAN is free to spread their nonsense on their website.
- cannedslime 6y ago
  Yes and when godaddy and visa pulls their services they are free to become their own domain registrar and credit card company as well!
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    Yes, anyone can become their own domain registrar if need be. As for credit card processing services, generally Visa and Mastercard are enforcing policies of the banks that actually provide the credit; they simply take the heat because they're paid to. But on that note, both the CEOs of Visa and Mastercard are...Republican donors...almost exclusively...and so would, if anything, favor right-leaning websites such as OAN.
    - cannedslime 6y ago
      > As for credit card processing services, generally Visa and Mastercard are enforcing policies of the banks that actually provide the credit; Generally! I know at least one American comedian who is banned by both for taking jabs at you know who... And no you just dont become a domain registrar like that. You need to be quite privileged to do that.
      - gamblor956 6y ago
        I don't actually know who you're referring to, either on the comedian side or the "you know who" side) but if you're referring to Kathy Griffith she is gainfully employed in Hollywood again and was never banned by Visa or Mastercard. She simply lost a bunch of gigs because people didn't want to be associated with someone who thought it was funny to joke about beheading the president (regardless of whether they agreed with her sentiments). And becoming a domain registrar requires a demonstration of technical capabilities, but otherwise does not require any privileges. Literally anyone can apply to become a domain registrar if they can demonstrate that they actually know how to do it.