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If Matrix is good enough for the German Armed Forces [1], the French government [2], and the German education system [3], I can't think of any reason not to use

If Matrix is good enough for the German Armed Forces [1], the French government [2], and the German education system [3], I can't think of any reason not to use it :) [1] https://messenger.bwi.de/ https://messenger.bwi.de/ [2] https://matrix.org/blog/2018/04/26/matrix-and-riot-confirmed-as-the-basis-for-frances-secure-instant-messenger-app https://matrix.org/blog/2018/04/26/matrix-and-riot-confirmed... [3] https://sifted.eu/articles/element-germany-deal/ https://sifted.eu/articles/element-germany-deal/

ThePadawan 6y ago
I might be biased here as a German native that follows the German tech media a fair bit... ...but those are among the three organizations I would trust the least with such a choice. It would be like recommending a housing strategy implemented in San Francisco, or a public transportation strategy implemented in New York.
- Arathorn 6y ago
  What about Mozilla, or Wikipedia, or Fedora? They all use Matrix too :P
  - spurgu 6y ago
    Be honest now, there's no way you can honestly claim that Element is a good UI/UX. I'd love it to be the other way around but it's just plain and simply bad. At least on all MacOS combos I've tried - native client as well as web app (Chrome/FF/Safari). And Android. Oh and fuck not being to have different notification schemes for desktop/mobile. I end up having mobile notifications turned off altogether. So many inconsistencies in the UI. Almost non-existent keyboard navigation. Typing notifications and read receipts on by default (supposed to be a privacy focused chat). Handling unread messages. Lack of threads. I could go on...
  - tabob 6y ago
    I don’t know about Mozilla or Fedora, but have you ever interviewed with Wikimedia? It’s a circus of insanity. The most bizarre corporate culture ever; and the most psychotic receuiter i’ve ever come across. Whatever they choose, I choose the opposite.

ThePadawan 6y ago

I might be biased here as a German native that follows the German tech media a fair bit... ...but those are among the three organizations I would trust the least with such a choice. It would be like recommending a housing strategy implemented in San Francisco, or a public transportation strategy implemented in New York.

Arathorn 6y ago
What about Mozilla, or Wikipedia, or Fedora? They all use Matrix too :P
- spurgu 6y ago
  Be honest now, there's no way you can honestly claim that Element is a good UI/UX. I'd love it to be the other way around but it's just plain and simply bad. At least on all MacOS combos I've tried - native client as well as web app (Chrome/FF/Safari). And Android. Oh and fuck not being to have different notification schemes for desktop/mobile. I end up having mobile notifications turned off altogether. So many inconsistencies in the UI. Almost non-existent keyboard navigation. Typing notifications and read receipts on by default (supposed to be a privacy focused chat). Handling unread messages. Lack of threads. I could go on...
- tabob 6y ago
  I don’t know about Mozilla or Fedora, but have you ever interviewed with Wikimedia? It’s a circus of insanity. The most bizarre corporate culture ever; and the most psychotic receuiter i’ve ever come across. Whatever they choose, I choose the opposite.